Prime Minister Trudeau participates in a youth town hall in London, United Kingdom

good morning everyone welcome to City Hall who’s excited oh come on who’s excited okay it’s gonna be great morning I’m going to speak for a little while to bring on our two guests and the reason why you’re here today is this year we are we have a big campaign called behind every great city behind every great city is equality is opportunity and is progress and we’re really keen to make sure this year we take advantage of it being a hundred years since the first women got the right to vote and I’ve got with me on stage now and you’re going to probably raise the roof and make me have to bring in the builders when I ask them to come on stage but two of the leading feminists in the world and they’re in positions of power and influence and they are amazing people they got to say a couple of minutes to kick things off and they’re going to take questions from you so I want you to raise the roof why introduce firstly the Prime Minister for Canada and then secondly the Prime Minister for New Zealand are you ready now are you excited so let’s give a big warm London welcome to the Prime Minister from Canada Justin Trudeau [Applause] and we can do better the promises of New Zealand just send the harder so Justin and Jacinta have very kindly agreed to take as many questions as we can fit in to their busy schedule it’s the first public event either of them are doing because they were keen to listen to young Londoners and take your questions next week with Parliament Square we’re going to unveil the first ever statue of a woman who’s gonna come along so look so what we’re going to do is our speech of teachers by the way for those students and you can come along as well we’re gonna we’re gonna we’re going to take questions from you before we take the questions I’ve got a list of those of you who wanted to ask a question here can I just check we’ve got heartland high here I think they’re here Palin are Deford green here since save isn’t olives so I’m gonna ask the Prime Minister of Canada Justin to say a few words and then we’re gonna ask Jacinda the prime minister who didn’t say a few words and then we’re gonna open it up is that okay Justin over to you this one of the great things about this job is an opportunity to sit down and meet with a huge range of people different backgrounds my favorite thing to do is to meet with young people because the way you’re asking questions about everything the way you’re challenging us society to think differently to evolve to change to be challenged is super important in politics but in just about every area as we’re going through a time of tremendous change getting young people to realize that you are not unlike what people tell you the leaders of tomorrow you’re already leaders today and what you do today and the actions you take right now have a deep deep impact and one of the things that we’re going to talk about today which is so important is we all have important voices to raise every single one of us and on the issue of feminism obviously that means making sure that girls are speaking loud and proud but it also means that men have to be part of the solution guys need to speak up be proud of saying that yes we are feminists because we know that men and women need to be equal and there’s a lot of work to do that’s that’s what we have to do together and that’s that way I’m so glad to be here to hear your questions before I used to cynically I just say this there are many claims to fame she has but the biggest thing that I’m most proud of is she spent two and a half years living in London so we have a Londoner who’s the prime minister of New Zealand just send Harden got nervous when you see biggest claim to fame because I immediately think about my front look anything red makes a reference like that it’s really wonderful to be here with you today and I really want to leave mostly I want to leave time for questions I want to hear from you what you’re interested in hearing from us about but one thing I did want to say was congratulations on celebrating a hundred years of women’s suffrage in New Zealand we’re celebrating 125 years and I was the

proudest day is despite and really proud of that I think we always have to be careful that we’re not complacent you know even having a female Prime Minister does not mean that you have achieved equality as long as we have a gender pay gap as long as we have women who are overrepresented and low paid work as long as we have women who are more likely to experience domestic violence then there is a lot of work to do and so for me the issue of equality it spans across so many areas and so I’m so pleased to know that there is no complacency here because we do need to make sure that we just keep working to make things better and better so that in the future your children my children these things won’t be child if I say children plural that gets very nervous things will be better for that next generation than they even are now so thank you for being so interested in this really important so Justin Anderson do you want to make long speeches and they’ve got no idea what questions you got to ask so fingers crossed this works so I’ve got the foot the first three names I’ve got down here just the names of the questions so the first round we’re going to do Nabila first from heartland high then Dixie Lee from death for the green and then tae ho from sin saviors so in the beat of first where’s nabina if you know they might come over to you I think maybe this teachers ask the question but first question who are your female role models great first question Dixie Lee where’s Dixie Lee okay just wait for the mic behind you what advice would you give to a girl like me looking to become prime minister 6 p.m. now you said Prime Minister not mayor tae ho just pass it back to Tahoe hi my questions about the gender stereotyping as we grow up and people say that men can only do certain things and women can only do certain things and how can we make sure that girls and boys get the same opportunities to kick things off and then we’ll come to Justin oh yeah I’ll try all of those at once and my answer to my role model is really cheesy but it’s true my my mother is a huge role model to me and I think probably we always draw inspiration from the people who are closest to us but the thing that really has guided me through my life are the values that I have and the principles that are really important to me and I learnt mean from my parents particularly I learnt kindness and generosity from my mother my mother was always you know she when I was growing up she ran my school cafeteria which was really handy come lunch time but it means she made a lot of sacrifices to make sure she was around for me and my sister but the principles in values she taught me about looking out for one another always the kind of person who’d be the first to take a lasagna to someone needed one she taught me probably the principle that guides me in the leadership role I have every single day so yes we all have our heroes people we may not ever meet but the ones in our everyday lives you can lead learn really importantly since wrong to advice to someone who wants to be a prime minister great question you know I’ve got a very very quick question for all of you who’s got a dream job in mind dream job something you absolutely believed that it would be the best thing in the world to do if you could do it dream job okay is that the same thing as what you think you’re gonna do now when I do this back home I’m always surprised at the number of hands that come down that the thing that you would love to do most in the world might not be the thing that you actually think you’re going to end up doing so my advice to anyone who wants to be a prime minister never give up on believing that you can do it because the biggest barrier I think to particularly for woman speaking in a general assumption but I think the biggest barrier for us achieving some of our goals is our own belief that we can’t plenty of people are going to put barriers up for you you don’t need to be one of them so just keep that self belief because there are a lot of people out there that you would admire a lot who probably have struggled with confidence themselves and I’d say that I was one of them can I ask you when did you decide she wants to be Prime Minister I didn’t oh I just I’ve never saw myself being able to to take on such a role I’ve always been really open about that it’s just something that I thought was was just something others did I I absolutely believed I could do it just never saw myself doing the role mmm okay Justin I’m gonna start with the last question the way we raise our kids on gender stereotyping how we show you guys

that you can do anything and for me I spent a lot of years as a youth advocate and as I got older and older and still tried to talk about youth I’d protect myself back but now I’m a dad and when I think about youth I look at my kids and I project them forward and one of the things that I’ve realized and I’ve talked about a lot is making sure that I raise my daughter to understand and that she can do absolutely anything that there should be no barriers that she should have all the opportunities in the world but my wife who Sophie who’s actually one of my role models and inspirations as a women a woman there’s no question about it pointed out to me that it’s great that you’re raising your daughter to be a feminist of the thing about gender equality and know that she can do anything but you got to raise your sons as well to be feminists and to support their sister and you know girls around the world to be able to know that they do and can do everything and how we change mindsets not just among women but around men and include men in the conversation or women’s equality if you think about it we’re in a situation where men are unfairly given more opportunities more power more weight to what they say and do because we have an imbalance in our society well the men have to be encouraged and brought along to use that extra power and weight we give them to be part of making equality happen to be part of the solution men need to be allies and partners and supporters in the fight for equality because it ends up helping us all and the question about becoming p.m absolutely I totally support everything just into said and I think the path towards politics as you think about it there’s not one path that will lead you towards politics you don’t say ok I’ve got a study in school and go into political science and then start working on a political campaign and I mean that’s a path and some people do it but anything that charges you up and gets you passionate and gets you connecting with people and bringing people together and creating actions and impacts in the world is a path towards political activity and eventually possibly politics if you still want to do that so be open to having a political impact as an active engaged citizen and you’ll be amazed with how far that brings you and the last comment is about needing to have more women wanting to become prime minister able to become prime minister able to be successful in politics and one of the things that we were able to do in Canada was appoint a gender balanced cabinet 50% man 50% women in in our in our government but in order to do that I had to spend a few years trying to convince extraordinary women across Canada to step forward into politics and you really notice when you’re asking great people and asked three people all sorts of backgrounds to come join me and step up into politics when you ask a guy if he wants to go into politics if he’ll step forward in politics his first question is usually something like why did it take you so long to ask me uh uh yeah there’s there’s this oh great I’m good I’m happy to do it if you ask a woman if she wants to come into politics there’s usually a pause this exactly what what what Jacinda said is really do you think I’m good enough do you think I have enough capacity do you think and you meet these people with extraordinary Seavey’s extraordinary backgrounds but there is a system that keeps us doubting or keeps women doubting that they can succeed and we really have to deliberately break down the barriers out there but also the barriers in mindsets that happen and having conversations like this are a big part of okay so for the next round so you know in our cabinet there are actually very few women in the cabinet when Justin became prime minister in 2015 the first cabinet he appointed had half who we’re women and when Justin was asked a question what was your answer Justin what I said yeah I said it was 2015 why why is it important to have half women half men in in in in government and it was a ridiculous question so I said because it is because it’s time that we stopped realizing that parity is some far-off thing we have to reach to it’s something we have to take concrete actions towards right now and the best thing about the gender balance path cabinet isn’t the symbol isn’t the the indication that it can be done or

should be done it’s actually the kind of conversations and the substance of the the debates we have and the solutions we put forward which are better because we have a more desert diverse group of people making that decisions and that’s okay the next round got from Deptford Green School Patrick somebody get the mic to Patrick that’s overhead front row shop here and the second questions going to be to Kelly power from saviors where’s Kelly back okay Kelly’s in the back and the third one it’s from Jamie McCarran gammas from Hartland hi where’s Jamie ok you first yep why would you do you support lowering the age at which I can vote 16 and why do you think it is important okay it’s currently 18 in the UK so Kelly how can we help tackle gender inequality great question and third question from Jamie what does being a feminist mean to you great question well it’s Justin to go first electors in to respond second so Justin there was a long conversation in Canada about how we get more young people to vote because over the past years there was a real decline in young people taking an interest in politics and a lot of people said all let’s lower the voting age will make voting mandatory like it is in some countries there’s different things we can do to get young people to vote and I took a slightly different perspective I said instead of you know trying to address the symptoms of the problems of young people not voting let’s try and address the root cause why are young people not voting or not stepping up into politics because I knew from the work that I’ve been doing with young people then it wasn’t because they didn’t care about politics or because they were cynical or because they they’re they’re apathetic about the world and if there was apathy and frustration it was never because they don’t care about the you don’t care about the world it was very much about feeling that you’re not given the tools to actually have an impact in the world you want to change and therefore there’s frustration so we really focused on bringing young people into the conversation empowering them in politics and not just as volunteers and envelope stocking stuffers but actual the part of the conversation to talk about how we’re going to improve our society for the long term how we’re going to take care of the big long-term issues that young people are most focused on whether it’s you know the future of technology of the environment or human rights or Canada in the world these were all issues that mattered in a big way that young people wanted to talk about other than rather than a specific change to a tax system that might or might not make a big impact in the world so being bold enough to have big conversations brought young people in in a way that we turned around and increased youth voting without having to lower the voting age although we do have a great program in Canada where high school students who aren’t voting age yet have fully organised mock elections so they can get used to the idea of voting even though their votes don’t count they get into the political process and start thinking about it in a way that leaves them ready to do it when they turn 18 and we have a turnout issue for our younger voters as well but actually we’ve had a turnout issues for younger voters a number of years it’s not new but we do worry about it we worry about it because it means that these under-representation that young people are not having their voice heard and two things I would say on that are I agree with Justin that you know one of the issues that as I perceive it in New Zealanders we have this skate by call it skate park syndrome go out and find out what young people feel about building skate parks in their local community because surely that’s what young people care about you know I go into schools and it’s one of my favorite things to do and talk about the issues that young people are interested in talking about it is more often than not things like child poverty inequality climate change the big issues that actually we’re grappling with in government but she probably not doing enough to talk about not doing enough to demonstrate that we’re taking the action that young people really want us to take so why would a young person vote if they don’t see anything from their representatives or their candidates that speak to the things they care about so that’s one thing actually talking about those issues that really matter it’s the first thing and the second thing though is I think we would be wrong to assume that voting is the only way that people have power probably one of my biggest group of people who write to me will be children at primary school I get bundles and bundles of letters from children in fact we had to bring in someone to help me specially with the letters that I get from children which I find wonderful because it means at the end of a long usually out after I come from we have

this in New Zealand question time it’s very shouting and it’s very robust and so every time I’m in question time I’ll be answering a lot of questions from the opposition what are the one of the things I do is I take down my folder of children’s correspondence down to the debating chamber so when I’m done with all the shouting questions I look at pictures and drawings from children’s and they’re not just sending me happy smiley faces they are most often sending me their worries in the world turtles and straws up Turtles noses plastic bags in the sea they care deeply about issues that lots of people talk about we’d be wrong to think children and young people don’t now those leaders have a impact on me I’m talking about now because I see them so often there is power in petitions there’s power in litres and all of those have no age barrier in my country a 16 year old could take a petition to Parliament and force Parliament to consider it you don’t have to vote to have power and so for me it’s about apps and making sure that you have knowledge about the tools that you have an our system to make change and a question on both your Prime Minister’s and huge power how do we fight gender inequality a big big issue we started put a gender lens on just about everything we do and that is recognising the policy of government puts forward has a different impact on men than it does on women you also think about intersectionality and a woman who is from a visible minority or the LGBT community you get layers of discrimination and that that can add up and we have to be really sensitive to all the challenges that hit people differently and when you start thinking about the impact of everything you do as a government with a diversity lens with a gender lens you suddenly come up with solutions that aren’t just you know better or more popular they’re usually smarter and that’s one of the big points that we’ve made that gender equality is not just a societal or moral issue it’s actually a cold hard economic issue giving a full half of the population full opportunities to contribute to lead to achieve their fullest potential is the only way a society and as a whole can achieve its potential so making sure we’re doing things that yes or within the traditional more gender equality issues of domestic violence or or child care or issues like that yes that’s important but it’s also thinking but just about everything else with that gender lens construction projects in rural areas if you’re building a highway through a rural area well you have to think you’re going to be sending a whole bunch of mostly men construction workers to faraway towns and communities that’s going to have an impact on that community around violence around around gender issues we also have to think about how we make sure that through proactive pay legislation women get paid the same as men for similar jobs you know Canada’s done a lot with the gender balance cabinet with a gender budget that we put forward our Tara national budget had a gender lens on it in 2018 it just just a few months ago but when you actually look at the numbers were way down in terms of women in Parliament we’re way down in terms of women in boards and we’re actually fairly low in terms of actual gender equality gender parity in terms of the workplace so we recognize that there’s some things we’re talking about really well but there’s other things we’re working on but we still got a really long way to go and that that comment that she’s intimated about complacency and knowing that we have to challenge ourselves to do better and constantly think about it is the only way we close the gaps around gender equality just question what feminism means means to use well feminism means me who who believes in equality who believes in equality you are all feminists because that for me it is betters edits most simple that is what feminism feminism is it’s just that simple idea of fairness now lots of stereotypes hang up that word lots of them we were talking about them some of the before and all of you it’s such good insights into all of the stereotypes that hang off that one word and that comes with a word that has so much history waves of history different movements at different times but if you drill it all back down and if you just simplify it feminism is about fairness and equality now that means that actually the work that we have to do sits across a whole lot of areas one of the things I sometimes get frustrated by is this idea that the only markers we have woman’s representation we’ve we’ve had almost 40 percent woman in our New Zealand Parliament it’s the highest we’ve had

ever we right now have a female governor-general I’m a female obviously Prime Minister a female chief justice does it mean our work has done no because again as I say the measures that meant matter a lot to me about the ones in everyday life and the experience that women have in the workplace in everyday life and there isn’t just up to politicians that’s up to all of us so that’s also why feminism for me is about everybody it’s about men it’s about women it’s about making sure that everyone no matter which workplace on which school are in actually just gets a feed go and we just try and weed out some of those some of those very old-fashioned behaviors okay we’re gonna move on to the next round of questions we’ve got sorry ol Adeola and Kathy Ann where’s Ariel from Heartland I would like to know what does equality even mean to you and how can it be represented in society again what is equality to mean and what how can it be represented in society great and Adeola i am i was going to say congratulations on your pregnancy and my question is how do you deal with prejudice against women in politics for you Kathy Ann from Deptford Green my question is what should be done about the gender pay gap and what are you doing about it great great great questions we’re actually at the moment we have legislation that we’re working on to make sure that actually we give a mechanism for people to close close the gender to make sure that we can address some of our paid Cori issues so we’re doing it through a couple of ways that the law is is one of them but I’ll leave just impetus to pick up a bit more on as well we actually just not long hit a landmark court case we’re home care workers people who looked after the elderly we went through a process and really challenged the idea that they were being paid fairly and the court found in their favor and it’s meant a massive difference in pay increase for those predominantly woman who funky rupees so that’s the kind of work we’re trying to do but without you having to go through the courts to achieve it on the issues in equality or issues if I face in politics do I’m lucky I’m the third female Prime Minister in my country the food that’s really remarkable when you think about some of our other other countries and and some who are just having their first we were on our food and I have to say that those women really paved away from me I’ve made a huge difference and the kind of experience that I’m now having and leadership having stood there probably I had just as many difficult moments when I was outside of politics as I do in I still remember one of my really early jobs my first boss who was a woman and told me I would never get promoted at least I cut my hair I haven’t cut my hair since I have to say I’m like Samson now I think jobs never say the problem because she thought I didn’t look serious and that no one would ever take me seriously as a woman if I had long hair I know that’s a really trivial little example but I just used it to say that actually yes in politics I do experience bits of it here and there but I have a lot of people who come in and defend when it happens when I was in that workplace there was no one else but me to take it on by myself and that was probably harder in a lot of ways and so that’s why I’m really conscious that even if we look like we’re waiting it out in the high places we’ve got to think about the other workplaces – we’ve got to look out for one another in those workplaces and so perhaps in my experience isn’t isn’t quite as bad as as others I’ve seen one of the final thing I’ll say is that when I was elected to be the leader of the Labour Party in New Zealand I was the youngest member of that caucus and I was a woman and all MPs in my team backed me so having a great team around you really makes a difference to crack an answer just just in only gender pay gap I think it’s important as well that we we recognize what gender pay gap yes it’s not you know if you go to a bank and there’s two bank tellers in front of you and you know one’s a man one’s a woman that they might make a different salary although if they’re not making the same salary there’s a problem there for the same seniority eighty years of experience same job it’s in different types of jobs I mean Jacinta talked about home care

workers that are more predominantly women but that might be the same amount of training the same kind of challenging job as a job in being a building engineer or more custodial services or something that is more male-dominated so it’s looking at different types of jobs and seeing or if this one is more of a women dominated job and that one’s more of a male-dominated job and they have about the same degree of difficulty and that sort of a challenge or a degree of quality or value making sure that what happens right now is that the women’s jobs are usually underpaid that you raise the salaries of those women’s jobs so that it’s fair across the board and that’s a fairly complicated thing to do within society we’re doing it within our public service we’re also putting forward legislation that we’re working on we should compare notes on how we’re doing it but it’s sapling actually becomes a little more easy because larger companies are now much more computer savvy and the HR departments are all plugged in in terms of salaries you can actually have more transparency on who’s getting paid what and constantly check and it’s pay equity is not about just bringing in a law and saying okay you have to adjust everything it’s about iterating and checking in every few years to make sure that that you’re doing better every time it’s not an end it’s a process and doing that is going to be really really important around women in politics and Prejudice we’re going through in politics in Canada and around the world the same kinds of things that are happening in Hollywood in the banking industry in you know so many different industries which is the me to movement a sense of times up that harassment in the workplace is unacceptable in any place in any way and starting with a position of support and belief for anyone who comes forward with a story of harassment seems like a simple thing but it’s really really important when usually a woman comes forward with the story of being harassed intimidated or sexually assaulted or harassed at work these we have to as a society do a much better job of believing and supporting and moving forward with them in that there’s still a huge amount of stigma and challenge and we have to bring that more into the open and deal with it through processes that are actually supportive and fair and the old boys club and the idea that oh we’re going to you know brush it under the rug that we have to stop and we’ve done significant strides in Parliament but there are huge challenges because harassment and sexual assault is usually if not always about power dynamics as well and politics is a hugely hierarchical structure with massive power dynamics and young volunteers and and people who are you know in danger of losing their job for random reasons there’s a huge amount of work we all have to do but it starts with all of its that all of us standing up clearly and strongly together and saying this behavior is unacceptable and it’s going to stop and that’s what we need your generation to understand and be part of pushing the change because you know some older generations still don’t get it because somebody that back telling me I think which means time which must mean time is up with us in the tower all she wants the acquirement be doing so got a couple expression I wasn’t your cinder and just didn’t have just 30 seconds easy just to wind up the final words because they both got really incredibly busy Diaries there are 53 separate heads of government here in London they’ve got meetings with some of them that good means with they’re all family with the prime minister of members of the cabinet and they made time to come and listen to and speak to young Londoners so before Astra cinder and just in to say a few words can I ask us to show our London appreciation to the prime minister of New Zealand and the province of Canada Justin Jacinda [Applause] what the toward your sender goes first you know when they finish we’re gonna jump down hopefully all of us gonna jump down and have a photograph take a team photograph which all settings were sent to you and stuff so just send over to really quick I just wanted to say thank you for caring thank you for caring about issues that are really important no matter where you live in the world and I actually say the same thing that Justin C is quite often I get frustrated

by this leaders of tomorrow issue no one knows what it is to be a 15 16 17 year old in 2018 living in London but you do your experience is unique your views therefore are important so never let anyone tell you that they’re not I first joined a political movement at 17 and because I wanted to change the world I started by delivering leaflets you can start with anything and you’ll never know where that journey will take you so don’t let anyone diminish the importance of your opinions and finally you live in an amazing city I loved living in London I lived in Brixton and Vauxhall when I last lived in London I loved being here and you have a lot to be proud of in your city its diversity is one of them but you miss you me it’s pretty cool as well so thanks for having us Justin my message very similar to just send us you matter what you do matters and equality obviously is something that matters for all of us the idea of fairness is something that’s that’s ingrained in humans you know we want the world to be fair even though in so many ways it’s not in the ways that we can make it fairer your words matter your actions matter if you see someone making fun or bullying against someone step up step in if you have a capacity to change the way people things to challenge the world around you and to gather people with you to continue that challenge to do the right thing be brave be bold look for ways to have that impact to shape the world around the world will be what you all make it and you have to understand that you do have the power to shape the world and ultimately you know as has been said many times you will not define your own success in your happiness by what you get from the world but how you shape the world around you how you have an impact on the world how you bring meaning and relevance to your life through how you impact and shape your community so know that the choices you make are actually not just shaping your lives but the whole world you’re part of and you know the opportunity for us to see and hear and be inspired as we go off to speak with a whole bunch of different heads of government to be connected to all of you is the best possible way I could start this day and any day thank you for continuing to inspire me and reassuring me that our future and our present is in very good hands just interesting I think [Applause]