The National for February 13, 2017

THINK THEY MIGHT WANT A HANDSHAKE >> Peter: CAREFUL DIPLOMACY RULES THE DAY AS JUSTIN TRUDEAU MEETS FACE-TO-FACE WITH DONALD TRUMP >> Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: THE LAST THING THAT CANADIANS EXPECT IS FOR ME TO COME DOWN AND LECTURE ANOTHER COUNTRY >> Peter: GOOD EVENING, I’M PETER MANSBRIDGE, AND THIS IS “THE NATIONAL.” >> President Donald Trump: WE HAVE A VERY OUTSTANDING TRADE RELATIONSHIP WITH CANADA >> Peter: BUT TRUMP SAYS IT NEEDS “TWEAKING”, WE’LL SEE WHAT THAT COULD MEAN >>> HOW BOTH LEADERS USED WOMEN’S ISSUES TO THEIR ADVANTAGE >>> AND BIG MEETING MEANS BIG TALK SO ANDREW AND CHANTAL ARE HERE FOR A SPECIAL “AT ISSUE” AND WE’LL ALSO GET THE TAKE FROM STATESIDE AS DAVID FRUM IS JOINING US FROM WASHINGTON (♪♪♪) >>> WELL, IF THE BAR WAS SIMPLY FOR JUSTIN TRUDEAU TO MAKE IT OUT OF WASHINGTON WITHOUT NEGATIVE HEADLINES, WITHOUT ANGERING DONALD TRUMP, THEN THE PRIME MINISTER’S TRIP COULD ARGUABLY BE CALLED A SUCCESS BUT IS THAT WHAT THE BAR SHOULD BE IN THIS DAY AND AGE OF CANADA-U.S. RELATIONS? IS THAT ENOUGH FOR CANADIANS? THERE ARE BIG POINTS OF POTENTIAL FRICTION RIGHT NOW — IMMIGRATION AND TRADE, TO NAME TWO BOTH LEADERS FACED QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM, STANDING BESIDE EACH OTHER THE TAKEAWAY ON TRADE — TRUMP DOES NOT SEE CANADA AS A BIG PROBLEM CANADA IS NO MEXICO IN THE PRESIDENT’S EYES BUT ON IMMIGRATION, SLIGHTLY LESS ACCORD OUR CATHERINE CULLEN IS IN WASHINGTON TONIGHT CATHERINE? >> Reporter: WELL, PETER, IN THE UNITED STATES THIS VISIT WAS A RELATIVELY BRIEF BLIP IN THE STORM OF CONTROVERSY THAT’S SURROUNDS DONALD TRUMP, BUT FOR CANADA’S PRIME MINISTER IT DOES SEEM THAT TODAY HE DID WHAT HE SET OUT TO DO >> President Donald Trump: WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH CANADA, MAYBE GOOD OR BETTER, HOPEFULLY, THAN EVER BEFORE >> Reporter: THOSE SUPERLATIVES ARE VINTAGE DONALD TRUMP AND IT’S WHAT JUSTIN TRUDEAU CAME TO WASHINGTON HOPING TO HEAR IT ALL SEEMED PLEASANT ENOUGH, AND TRUDEAU’S GOAL WAS TO GET ALONG >> President Donald Trump: THEY MIGHT WANT A HANDSHAKE >> Reporter: TO BUDDY UP AND TRY TO CONVINCE THE AMERICANS NOT TO INTRODUCE MEASURES THAT WOULD STEAM ROLL CANADIAN TRADE THE CANADIANS TRIED TO INSIST THAT THE TWO COUNTRIES COULD FIND COMMON CAUSE AND DREAMED UP AN EXAMPLE TO HELP TO MAKE THEIR CASE >> President Donald Trump: STRONG WOMEN ARE DEFINITELY HERE, THERE’S NO QUESTION >> Reporter: A NEW INITIATIVE ON WOMEN IN THE WORKFORCE, INVITING FEMALE C.E.O.s FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER AND TRUMP’S BELOVED DAUGHTER IVANKA POLITICALLY IT ALLOWS TRUDEAU TO ARGUE THAT HE’S SELLING HIS SELF-DESCRIBED FEMINIST VALUES ABROAD AND TRUMP WHO HAS HAD WOMEN PITTED AGAINST HIM CAN ARGUE THAT THIS SHOWS THAT HE SUPPORTS WOMEN >> President Donald Trump: IT’S TREMENDOUSLY IMPORTANT FOR WOMEN IN OUR ECONOMY >> WELCOME TO CANADA >> Reporter: THERE’S NO DENYING THAT THERE’S A LOT THAT THE LEADERS DISAGREE ON TRUDEAU’S GOVERNMENT HAS WELCOMED 40,000 SYRIAN REFUGEES TO CANADA WHILE TRUMP IS TRYING TO BAN REFUGEES AND TRAVELLERS FROM SEVEN MUSLIM-MAJORITY COUNTRIES SOME IN CANADA INSISTED THAT TRUDEAU HAD A MORAL OBLIGATION TO TAKE TRUMP TO TASK FOR THAT BAN THE PRIME MINISTER MADE IT CLEAR THAT HE WOULDN’T >> Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: THE LAST THING THAT CANADIANS EXPECT IS FOR ME TO COME DOWN AND TO LECTURE ANOTHER COUNTRY ON HOW THEY CHOOSE TO GOVERN THEMSELVES >> Reporter: THOUGH HE DID AT TIMES SEEM TO SUGGEST THAT HE WAS OBLIGATED TO GET ALONG WITH TRUMP >> Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: HISTORY HAS DEMONSTRATED TIME AND AGAIN THAT IN ORDER TO TACKLE OUR MOST PRESSING ISSUES BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC THAT WE MUST WORK WITH OUR CLOSEST ALLIES >> Reporter: AND FOR HOLDING HIS TONGUE, TRUDEAU GOT THE REWARD THAT HE WANTED WHEN TRUMP SAID IN HIS PLANS TO SHAKE UP NAFTA, CANADA WOULD GET OFF EASIER THAN MEXICO >> President Donald Trump: WE HAVE A VERY OUTSTANDING TRADE RELATIONSHIP WITH CANADA WE’LL BE TWEAKING IT, WE’LL BE DOING CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BENEFIT BOTH OF OUR COUNTRIES IT’S A MUCH LESS SEVERE SITUATION THAN WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE ON THE SOUTHERN BORDER >> Reporter: TRUDEAU ALSO KNOWS THAT THERE’S POLITICAL RISK IN GETTING ALONG TOO WELL WITH TRUMP SO EVEN THOUGH TRUMP PUT ON THE RECORD THAT CANADA WAS IN A SAFER SPACE, TRUDEAU WAS ONLY LUKEWARM ABOUT IT IN ONE OF HIS FINAL MEETINGS OF THE DAY >> Reporter: HOW WAS THE VISIT? >> Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: IT’S A START >> Reporter: NOW THERE’S NO IRON CLAD GUARANTEE FOR CANADA HERE THAT CANADA IS NOT GOING TO GET HIT WITH A NEW BORDER TAX OR NEW TARIFFS BUT TRUDEAU CAN RETURN TO OTTAWA AT LEAST HOPING THAT HE HAS CONVINCED TRUMP THAT ON THE ECONOMY CANADA IS MORE OF

AN ALLY THAN AN ADVERSARY PETER? >> Peter: ALL RIGHT, CATHERINE, THANK YOU >>> TRUDEAU BROUGHT TRUMP A GIFT OF A LION SCULPTURE HANDCARVED FROM OHIO SANDSTONE AND ALSO GAVE HIM A PHOTO OF A YOUNGER TRUMP WITH THE SENIOR TRUDEAU IT WAS TAKEN AT A 1981 AWARD DINNER IN NEW YORK PIERRE TRUDEAU RECEIVED THE FAMILY OF MAN GOLD MEDALLION FOR DEM STREETING EXCELLENCE IN SOCIETY AND WE FOUND THE ACTUAL TAPE FROM THE EVENT DEEP IN THE CBC LIBRARY DONALD TRUMP IS AT THE HEAD TABLE WITH THE FIRST PRIME MINISTER TRUDEAU >>> WELL, WITH THE WORD OF THE DAY OUT OF WASHINGTON BEING “TWEAK”, THERE WERE LIKELY SOME SIGHS OF RELIEF IN THIS COUNTRY BUT “TWEAK” IS A BIT OF A SUBJECTIVE WORD WHAT COULD IT MEAN IN TERMS OF CHANGES TO THE TRADE RELATIONSHIP? JACQUELINE HANSEN LOOKS AT THAT >> Reporter: FOR ADVANTAGE AUTOMATION THEY MANUFACTURE MACHINERY IN ANCASTER, ONTARIO, BUT MOST OF THE PARTS THEY USE COME FROM COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD >> Interview: NONE OF THE PIECES ON THIS TABLE ARE ACTUALLY MADE IN CANADA? >> Interview: THAT IS CORRECT >> Reporter: THEY COME FROM GERMANY, THE PHILIPPINES, MEXICO, BUT MAINLY THE U.S., WHICH MEANS THAT UNDER NAFTA RULES OF ORIGIN MOST OF THE PARTS IT IMPORTS ARE TARIFF FREE >> Interview: ALL OF THESE WOULD GO INTO SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO HOW DO YOU UNRAVEL THAT TRADE AGREEMENT? THE WORLD IS TOO FAR DOWN THAT I THINK THAT THE PRESIDENT UNDERSTANDS THAT >> Reporter: WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF NAFTA TODAY, TRUMP TALKED ABOUT BIG ISSUES WITH MEXICO BUT WITH CANADA JUST THOSE “TWEAKS.” >> President Donald Trump: OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH CANADA IS OUTSTANDING AND WE’RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE IT EVEN BETTER >> Reporter: IN CANADA, THAT WAS ENOUGH TO RELIEVE SOME ANXIETY >> Interview: THERE’S TWEAKS HERE AND THERE AND IT’S A SIGH OF RELIEF FOR ALL OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY >> Reporter: WHAT THOSE TWEAKS COULD BE IS STILL UNCLEAR SOME TRADE EXPERTS SPECULATE THAT IT COULD INCLUDE CHANGES TO COUNTRY OF ORIGIN RULES AND HOW SOME TRADE DISPUTES ARE RESOLVED SOME IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY HOPE THAT THERE’S ROOM TO MODERNIZE THE DECADES-OLD DEAL >> Interview: EVEN THE CLASSIFICATION OF PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE IN NAFTA, THERE ARE JOBS TODAY THAT DIDN’T EXIST 20 YEARS AGO >> Reporter: JOBS SUCH AS THOUGH IN THE HIGH-TECH SECTOR AND OTHERS SUGGEST ANY SO-CALLED TWEAKS MAY NOT HAVE ANY GREAT IMPACT >> Interview: CANADA-U.S TRADE IS RELATIVELY WELL BALANCED DONALD TRUMP AND HIS ADMINISTRATION DON’T SEE CANADA AS THE PROBLEM THEY SEEK TO FIX >> Interview: WE HAVE A CANADIAN MACHINE DESIGNED TO SELL MORE AMERICAN PRODUCT HENCE, MAKE AMERICA GREAT >> Reporter: ROB HANTO SAYS HE’S PREPARED TO WORK WITH AMERICA’S NEW FOCUS ON ITSELF BUT ANY TRADE NEGOTIATIONS ARE STILL A SOURCE OF ANXIETY FOR HIM >> Interview: THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A RIDE ON THE ROLLER COASTER IT CAN GO REALLY WELL OR IT CAN GO OFF THE RAILS REALLY, REALLY QUICK >> Reporter: FOR CANADIAN BUSINESS THAT IS ACCUSTOMED BY NOW TO TRUMP’S RHETORIC ON WHAT HE HAS CALLED “THE DISASTER OF NAFTA” TODAY WAS FAR LESS DRAMATIC NAFTA’S FUTURE IS STILL AN UNKNOWN BUT TRUMP CLEARLY SIGNALLED THAT CANADA IS NOT MUCH OF A TARGET JACQUELINE HANSEN, CBC NEWS, TORONTO >> Peter: NOW MORE ABOUT ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE THE PRESIDENT AND THE PRIME MINISTER FOUND CONSENSUS IT’S CALLED THE UNITED STATES-CANADA COUNCIL FOR ADVANCEMENT OF WOMEN ENTREPRENEURS AND BUSINESS LEADERS DON’T GET BOGGED DOWN BY THE NAME, IT COULD SIGNAL THE PRIORITY THAT TRUMP IS GIVING WOMEN’S ECONOMIC ISSUES THE OFFICIAL COMMUNIQUÉ SAID “WE EXPECT THIS INITIATIVE TO PROMOTE THE GROWTH OF WOMEN-OWNED ENTERPRISES AND TO FURTHER CONTRIBUTE TO OUR OVERALL ECONOMIC GROWTH AND COMPETITIVENESS.” >> Interview: I THINK IT’S A WIN FOR BOTH BECAUSE IT IS AN AREA OF MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING AND MUTUAL CONCERN BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES >> Peter: ADVANCING WOMEN HAS BEEN A CLEAR PRIORITY FOR THE PRIME MINISTER AFTER HIS LIBERAL PARTY CAME TO POWER HE WAS PRAISED FOR NAMING A CABINET THAT WAS 50% WOMEN >> Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: BECAUSE IT’S 2015 [Applause] >> Peter: BY CONTRAST, TRUMP HAS FEW WOMEN IN CABINET, BUT HE DOES HAVE HIS DAUGHTER, IVANKA ALTHOUGH NOT PART OF HIS ADMINISTRATION, SHE HAS A HUGE INFLUENCE ON THE PRESIDENT AND HAS BEEN A VOCAL ADVOCATE FOR POLICIES BENEFITING WORKING WOMEN >> AS PRESIDENT MY FATHER WILL CHANGE THE LABOUR LAWS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE AT A TIME WHEN WOMEN WERE NOT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE WORKFORCE >> Peter: THE COUNCIL WILL BE MADE UP OF FIVE WOMEN FROM EACH COUNTRY SOME OF THEM WERE AT TODAY’S MEETING FOR EXAMPLE, THE PRESIDENT AND C.E.O. OF G.E. CANADA AND TINA LEE, THE C.E.O. OF T AND T SUPERMARKET INC AND DAWN FARRELL, THE C.E.O. OF TRANSALTA CORP >> Interview: THERE’S A DESIRE BY THE PRIME MINISTER TO

UNDERSTAND WHAT IT REALLY TAKES TO GET WOMEN INTO LEADERSHIP AND I SAW THE SAME GENUINE DESIRE BY PRESIDENT TRUMP SO, I MEAN, REALLY IT WAS THEM ASKING US WHAT THE ISSUES WERE >> Peter: WOMEN ARE MAJOR FACTORS IN BOTH ECONOMIES, ACCORDING TO THE MOST RECENT DATA IN THE U.S., 57% OF WOMEN PARTICIPATE IN THE LABOUR FORCE IN CANADA THAT NUMBER IS EVEN HIGHER — 61% AND MANY OF THOSE WOMEN SHARE THE SAME PROBLEMS — AFFORDABLE CHILD CARE, OPPORTUNITIES FOR CAREER ADVANCEMENT, AND, OF COURSE, THE STRUGGLE FOR PAY EQUITY WHERE IN CANADA THE WAGE GAP IS JUST OVER 21% SO WHAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED TODAY? >> Interview: IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN HOW THE COUNCIL IS STRUCK AND THE KIND OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MAKE BUT I THINK THAT THERE’S A LOT OF POWER IN IT FOR SURE >> Interview: WHAT WILL MATTER IS WHAT ARE THE RESULTS THAT ARE ACHIEVED AT THE END OF THE DAY? AND DO WE ADVANCE WOMEN IN BUSINESS AND IN ENTREPRENEURSHIP? >> Peter: BUT FOR WORKING WOMEN, REAL PROGRESS MEANS TAKING DOWN THE BARRIERS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE IT’S CERTAINLY NOT ABOUT BUILDING UP WALLS SO THERE WERE WINS ON BOTH SIDES TODAY BUT OVERALL HOW DID THE PRIME MINISTER DO? DID HE STRIKE THE RIGHT BALANCE BETWEEN DEFENDING CANADA’S POSITIONS AND KEEPING THE PEACE WITH A PRESIDENT WHO HAS ALREADY PROVEN TO BE VOLATILE WHEN DEALING WITH OTHER LEADERS? “POWER & POLITICS” HOST ROSEMARY BARTON WAS WATCHING IT ALL VERY CLOSELY FROM OTTAWA ROSIE, WHAT IS THE SENSE FROM THERE OF HOW PIERRE — PIERRE? JUSTIN TRUDEAU DID >> Reporter: LOOK, THE RISK OF HIGH BECAUSE AS OF SAID OF THE UNPREDICTABILITY OF THIS PARTICULAR PRESIDENT BUT THEY LAID A LOT OF GROUNDWORK WHETHER IT’S THE PRIME MINISTER’S TEAM GOING IN THERE AND GETTING A SENSE OF HOW THIS WOULD UNFOLD, SO THE BAR FOR SUCCESS TODAY FOR THE PRIME MINISTER — IT SET THE RIGHT TONE HE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS GUY ON THE PHONE WHEN HE NEEDS TO AND HE NEEDS TO GET SOME DIRECTION IN TERMS OF THE MAJOR ISSUES, WHETHER IT’S THE BORDER WHERE THEY GOT REAL ASSURANCES THAT IT WOULD NOT BE THICKENED AND THEY’RE LOOKING AT PREEXAMINATION OF CARGO OR PRECLEARANCE OF CARGO OR THE WAY FORWARD OR NAFTA, YES, WE DON’T KNOW WHAT “TWEAK” MEANS BUT IT APPEARS THAT WE’RE NOT THE TARGET OF THE RENEGOTIATIONS OF NAFTA SO ALL OF THAT WAS GOOD AND MOST IMPORTANTLY HE NEEDED TO GET OUT OF THERE WITHOUT HITTING ANY TRIP WIRES AND HE DID THAT HE DIDN’T OVERTLY CRITICISE THE PRESIDENT HE DEFENDED WHAT CANADA STANDS FOR AND HE DIDN’T GET INTO IT ON THAT FRONT SO HE STAYED OUT OF THE AND THAT MAY MEAN THAT IT WAS A RATHER UNREMARKABLE VISIT, LEAST FOR THE AMERICANS, BUT IF THAT’S WHAT HE WALKED AWAY WITH TODAY, THEN SO BE IT >> Peter: ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES OBVIOUSLY IS HOW YOU STAY ON THE RADAR AND ALREADY TONIGHT WATCHING AMERICAN TELEVISION IT’S AS IF THE TRIP NEVER HAPPENED HOW DOES CANADA STAY ON THE RADAR? >> Reporter: THERE’S A COUPLE THINGS TO WATCH FOR FIRST OF ALL, CABINET MINISTERS, CABINET SECRETARIES, COMING FROM WASHINGTON UP TO CANADA TO VISIT THAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE COMING WEEKS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP THOSE CHANNELS OF COMMUNICATION OPEN BUT THE OTHER THING TO WATCH FOR IS WHO WILL THE AMBASSADOR BE TO CANADA FROM THE UNITED STATES? THAT DECISION IS STILL NOT CONFIRMED, BUT THAT WILL BE AN IMPORTANT SIGNAL ABOUT HOW SERIOUSLY THE ADMINISTRATION TAKES CANADA AND, FINALLY, WILL THE PRESIDENT ACTUALLY COME HERE? THAT INVITATION HAS BEEN EXTENDED AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE KIND OF PROTESTS THAT MIGHT ARISE IF HE DOES, BUT IF HE WERE TO COME HERE AS WELL THAT WOULD SIGNAL THAT HE OBVIOUSLY FINDS THIS RELATIONSHIP MATTERS TO HIM AS WELL >> Peter: ALL RIGHT, ROSIE, THANK YOU ROSEMARY BARTON IN OTTAWA SO WE’VE HEARD FROM OFFICIALS, BUSINESS LEADERS, AND POLITICAL WATCHERS, BUT OUTSIDE OF THE TWO CAPITALS HOW DID TODAY’S MEETING GO OVER AND WHAT DOES IT SIGNAL? BRIAR STEWART HAS REACTION FROM EDMONTON >> Interview: THIS IS NOW IN SESSION >> Reporter: MORE THAN A HUNDRED NEW CANADIANS ARE TAKING THE OATH OF CITIZENSHIP AT THIS CEREMONY IN EDMONTON SO WHAT DO OUR NEWEST CITIZENS THINK OF THE PRIME MINISTER’S VISIT TO WASHINGTON? >> Interview: IT’S VERY IMPORTANT, UM-HMM, THEY HAVE TO PUT THEIR DIFFERENCES ASIDE FOR THE PEOPLE OF CANADA AND ALSO THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES >> Reporter: AS FOR TRUDEAU’S DECIDEDLY DIPLOMATIC TONE AND REFUSAL TO LECTURE DONALD TRUMP, THIS NOW DUO AMERICAN-CANADIAN CITIZEN SAYS IT WAS THE RIGHT MOVE >> Interview: AND DO WHAT IS BEST FOR HIM AND HIS COUNTRY AND GO FROM THERE, YOU KNOW, AND STAYING STRONG IS IMPORTANT BUT I DON’T THINK THAT I’D BE TOO AGGRESSIVE >> Interview: HE’S FIGHTING AN UPHILL BATTLE AT THE MOMENT >> Reporter: AT THIS ROTARY LUNCHEON TALK OF TRUMP’S POSTURING AND POLICIES WAS FRONT AND CENTRE >> Interview: IT COULD BE SOMEWHAT SCARY, IT’S GOING TO AFFECT US IN SOME WAY OR OTHER AND WE HAVE SEEN SOME THINGS ALREADY >> Reporter: FOR SOME, SERIOUS CONCERNS PERSIST ABOUT THE NEW PRESIDENCY >> Interview: I AM VERY WORRIED ABOUT IT AND I THINK THAT THERE’S A LOT OF JOBS THAT ARE RELIANT ON IT >> Reporter: BUT OTHERS SAY THAT TRUMP IS NOT ALL BAD >> Interview: IT’S OBVIOUSLY SOME OF HIS POLICIES THAT AREN’T

THE GREATEST AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DISAGREE WITH HIM BUT ECONOMICALLY I DON’T THINK THAT HE IS A VERY MORONIC MAN, ESPECIALLY THE FACT THAT HE’S MADE A LOT OF MONEY >> Reporter: AND, OF COURSE, TODAY’S VISIT THAT IS HIGH PROFILE IS SIMPLY A STARTING POINT >> Interview: IT SEEMS THAT HE’LL BE MORE FAVOURABLE IN HIS STANCE TO CANADA BUT WE’LL HAVE TO PLAY IT BY EAR TRUMP WILL WANT TO GIVE-AND-TAKE >> Reporter: WHAT EXACTLY THAT WILL MEAN FOR CANADIANS IS STILL VERY UNCLEAR BRIAR STEWART, CBC NEWS, EDMONTON >> Peter: WELL, WASHINGTON’S DIPLOMATIC TEMPERATURE MAY BE A MATTER OF OPINION BUT HERE AT HOME ATLANTIC CANADIANS ARE DEFINITELY IN A FEBRUARY FREEZEOUT IN NOVA SCOTIA TODAY IT WAS PRETTY MUCH ONE BIG CLOSED SIGN AT AIRPORTS, PUBLIC TRANSITS, SCHOOLS AND OFFICES BLIZZARD CONDITIONS ARE BRINGING LOTS OF SNOW, AS MUCH AS 40 CENTIMETRES IN NEW BRUNSWICK, UP TO 70 IN WESTERN NOVA SCOTIA, AND 60 FURTHER EAST, INCLUDING CAPE BRETON AND UP TO 40 ON P.E.I AND IN PARTS OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR THE CBC’S TOM MURPHY IS BRAVING IT FOR US TONIGHT IN HALIFAX TOM? >> Reporter: YES, PETER, WHAT A DAY IT’S BEEN IN THE MARITIMES YOU KNOW, THE WIND AND THE SNOW, IT STARTED LONG BEFORE DAWN TODAY AND TONIGHT IN MANY PARTS OF THIS REGION THE STORM IS STILL GOING STRONG SO FAR THIS WINTER NOVA SCOTIA HAD BEEN LEFT RELATIVELY UNSCATHED NOW THIS >> Interview: PRETTY GNARLY >> Interview: IT IS >> Reporter: IT’S LIKE THE REAL WINTER CREPT UP ON US WITH A VENGEANCE >> Interview: A LOT OF BLOWING SNOW IN THE FACE >> Interview: IT’S REALLY WINDY AND SNOWY AND I’M FROM SASKATCHEWAN AND THIS IS LIKE NOTHING I’VE SEEN SO FAR TRUE NOVA SCOTIA EXPERIENCE RIGHT HERE >> Reporter: ALL OF THAT WIND AT TIMES GUSTING OVER 100 KILOMETRES PER HOUR CONTRIBUTED TO STORM SURGES AROUND THE PROVINCE TAKE A LOOK AT THE EDGE OF HALIFAX HARBOUR WHERE CREWS TRIED TO PROTECT WATERFRONT RESTAURANTS FROM GOING UNDERWATER THIS BOAT CLUB DIDN’T FARE AS WELL SOME AREAS ARE EXPECTING 70 cm MORE OF SNOW CITIES ARE GHOST TOWNS PUBLIC TRANSIT IS NOT RUNNING OFFICES, STORES, SCHOOLS AND UNIVERSITIES, SHUT DOWN SOME HAVE ALREADY ANNOUNCED THEY WON’T BE REOPENING TOMORROW EITHER AND AIRPORTS THROUGHOUT THE REGION WERE EMPTY FLIGHTS GROUNDED, LEAVING SOME FEELING MORE THAN A LITTLE STRANDED >> Interview: AND YOU’RE GOING TO AUSTRALIA? >> Interview: YEAH >> Reporter: YOU WISH THAT YOU WERE IN AUSTRALIA RIGHT NOW? >> Interview: YEAH >> Reporter: THE BRIDGE TO AND FROM PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND IS SHUTDOWN TO ALL TRAFFIC AND IN NEW BRUNSWICK, THE DIGOUT HAS ALREADY BEGUN >> Interview: I’M DOING I THINK IT SMARTLY AND A LITTLE BIT OF WORKING OUT TO AVOID A HUGE AMOUNT OF WORK LATER PERHAPS MAYBE I’M NOT SO SMART >> Reporter: THEY’LL BE SHOVELLING FOR A WHILE, I’LL TELL YOU THAT THAT STORM SURGE IS STILL A THREAT ALONG THE ATLANTIC COAST, ESPECIALLY HERE IN NOVA SCOTIA TONIGHT AND ALL OF THAT WIND AND SNOW REALLY MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR POWER CREWS TO GET TO THE POWER OUTAGES, THOUSANDS OF THEM, IN NOVA SCOTIA AND NEW BRUNSWICK AND CUSTOMERS IN THE DARK TONIGHT THEY ARE TOLD, IN FACT, THEY MAY NOT GET THEIR POWER BACK, SOME OF THEM, UNTIL THIS TIME TOMORROW NIGHT AND, OH, BY THE WAY, JUST A HEAD UP FOR NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR, IT’S ALL COMING YOUR WAY PETER? >> Peter: ALL RIGHT, TOM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH >>> WELL, THE GOVERNMENT OF ONTARIO PROMISED TODAY TO FIND AND MAKE RIGHT ALL OF THE MERCURY CONTAMINATION THAT HAS HURT TWO FIRST NATION COMMUNITIES FOR DECADES THEY FOUND THAT THE RIVER IS CONTAMINATED AFTER MERCURY WAS DUMPED UPSTREAM IN THE 1960s AND EARLY 1970s AS MUCH AS 90% OF THE NEARBY POPULATION IS SAID TO SHOW SIGNS OF MERCURY POISONING >>> WE’LL HAVE MORE NEWS OF THE DAY LATER BUT STAY WITH US NOW… COMING UP NEXT ANDREW AND CHANTAL WITH A SPECIAL MONDAY NIGHT “AT ISSUE.” >>> A BIT LATER, DAVID FRUM WITH THE VIEW FROM WASHINGTON (♪♪♪) (♪♪♪)

(♪♪♪) >> President Donald Trump: WE’RE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH CANADA, MAYBE AS GOOD OR BETTER, HOPEFULLY, THAN EVER BEFORE >> Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: IT’S A TREMENDOUS PLEASURE TO BE HERE IN WASHINGTON MERCI BEAUCOUP >> Peter: WELL, THEY LOOKED PRETTY PLEASED WITH HOW THINGS WENT SHOULD THEY BE? ANDREW IS HERE IN TORONTO AND CHANTAL IS IN MONTREAL SO WHAT IS YOUR GENERAL SENSE, HOW DID THEY DO, ANDREW? >> Interview: LOOK, THEY DON’T HOLD THESE THINGS UNLESS THEY HAVE AN ASSURANCE OF SUCCESS AT ANY OF THESE CONFERENCES AND I IMAGINE THAT THERE WERE MORE NEGOTIATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS THAT WENT INTO THIS ONE AND THERE MAY BE A STORY IN THE EARLIER NEGOTIATIONS BUT BY THE TIME THEY GOT THE LEADERS TOGETHER IT WAS ASSURED OF SOME DEGREE OF SUCCESS TRUDEAU’S PERSONAL PERFORMANCE, HE NAILED DOWN THIS FORMULA SOME TIME AGO, YOU KNOW, OF SIMPLY STRESSING HOW CANADA DOES THINGS WITHOUT BEING OVERTLY CRITICAL OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE WILDCARD WAS TRUMP’S PERFORMANCE AND NO ONE CAN PREDICT ONE DAY TO THE NEXT HOW HE’LL PERFORM AND HE WAS PROBABLY UNDER ORDERS TO STICK TO THE SCRIPT AND HE DID FOR THE MOST PART >> Peter: CHANTAL, WHAT WAS YOU’RE TAKE? >> Interview: JUST ABOUT THE SAME, TRUDEAU WAS THERE ON A GOOD TRUMP DAY, A QUIET DAY AND I THINK THAT THEY WERE GRATEFUL FOR THAT I THINK THAT THE CANADIANS ACHIEVED ALL OF THEIR OBJECTIVES IT MAY BE THAT THE BAR IS LOW, WHAT IS CALLED SUCCESS TODAY IS HAVING AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT STATE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN TAKING FOR GRANTED FOR 30 YEARS, AND THAT’S THE DEFINITION OF SUCCESS BUT, STILL, GIVEN ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING IN WASHINGTON, IT WENT WELL, IT WAS WELL PLANNED TRUDEAU PLAYED HIS ROLE PROPERLY AND I CAN’T SEE THAT IT COULD HAVE GONE ANY BETTER >> Peter: YOU KNOW, THERE’S A LOT OF PEOPLE TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT THE MEANING OF “TWEAK” IS TONIGHT WHAT SHOULD WE TAKE FROM THE USE OF THAT WORD? SHOULD WE ASSUME THAT IT’S JUST MINOR TINKERING OR WAS THAT KIND OF AN OUT, ANDREW? OKAY, SORRY — >> Interview: WHEN YOU SIT DOWN TO NEGOTIATE TRADE, A LOT OF INTEREST GROUPS, INDUSTRIES SHOW UP SO WHATEVER YOU THINK IS TWEAKING TODAY MIGHT BE MORE SIGNIFICANT OR INSIGNIFICANT ONCE YOU’RE AT THE TABLE I DON’T THINK THAT EVEN DONALD TRUMP KNOWS WHAT THE DEFINITION OF “TWEAK” REALLY IS >> Peter: ANDREW? >> Interview: IT’S NOT JUST TRADE BUT THIS IS DAY ONE OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THEM NOT ONLY DO WE NOT KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING ON TRADE, THAT’S TO BE DETERMINED, BUT ON A WHOLE RANGE OF ISSUES IT’S ONE THING — IT’S FINE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THE PRIME MINISTER DOESN’T NECESSARILY NEED TO GET IN THE PRESIDENT’S FACE AT A JOINT PRESS CONFERENCE ON THE TRAVEL BAN AND THE IMPLICATIONS FOR CANADA IN THAT REGARD, BUT OUR INTERESTS AS WELL AS OUR VALUES ARE ENGAGED THERE AND THEY’RE GOING TODAY TD TO BE A STEADY PRESSURE FROM THIS DAY FORWARD ON THAT ISSUE SO, YEAH, WE HAD A GOOD DAY TODAY WHERE THEY GOT LONG FINE

AND NO ONE THREW ANYTHING BUT THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING >> Peter: IT WAS INTERESTING WHEN TRUDEAU QUOTED CHURCHILL ABOUT THE CANADA-U.S RELATIONSHIP AND THAT PLAYED TWO WAYS ONE, TO TRUMP’S APPARENT AFFECTION FOR CHURCHILL AND HE’S BROUGHT THE BUST OF CHURCHILL BACK INTO THE OVAL OFFICE BUT WHAT WAS ACTUALLY SAID WAS INTERESTING SOME PEOPLE ARE READING INTO IT LET’S JUST WATCH THE CLIP HERE TO REMIND OURSELVES OF IT >> Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: WINSTON CHURCHILL ONCE SAID THAT LONG CANADIAN FRONTIER FROM THE ATLANTIC TO THE PACIFIC OCEANS GUARDED ONLY BY NEIGHBOURLY RESPECT AND HONOURABLE OBLIGATIONS IS AN EXAMPLE TO EVERY COUNTRY AND A PATTERN FOR THE FUTURE OF THE WORLD THAT, MY FRIENDS, IS THE VERY ESSENCE OF THE CANADA-U.S RELATIONSHIP >> Peter: SO WAS HE TRYING TO SIGNAL SOMETHING THERE IN THE USE OF THAT QUOTE, ANDREW? >> Interview: PROBABLY I MEAN, POLITICIANS SPEAK IF PLATITUDES ALL THE TIME BUT WHAT IS INTERESTING ALWAYS IS WHAT IS THE CHOICE OF PLATITUDES AND WHICH ONES DO THEY USE AND WHICH ONES DO THEY LEAVE OUT? SO THIS IS PROBABLY WORTH READING INTO INTO IT AND I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT TRUDEAU MENTIONED THE 1991 ACID RAIN ACCORD AND I DON’T THINK THAT IT FOUND ITS WAY INTO TRUMP’S SPEAKING NOTES BUT IT WAS INTERESTING WITH TRUDEAU MAKING A POINT OF SAYING THAT I’M NOT GOING TO COME DOWN HERE AND LECTURE THE PRESIDENT YOU KNOW, THAT IMPLIES THAT THERE’S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LECTURED ABOUT SO IT WAS A SUBTLE WAY OF DEMURING FROM CRITICISM BUT ALSO OFFERING SOME >> Peter: CHANTAL? >> Interview: SOMETIMES SPEAKING IN CODE JUST WON’T CUT IT AND WE MAY LOOK BACK ON TODAY AS THE HIGH POINT OF THE RELATIONSHIP, DEPENDING WHERE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION GOES FROM HERE I DON’T THINK THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD HAVE TAKEN BE THAT CHURCHILL QUOTE TO MEAN ANYTHING THAT DOESN’T FIT HIS WORLD VIEW, I.E., GOOD FRONTIER, CANADA BAD FRONTIER, MEXICO >> Peter: YEAH, IT WAS FUNNY — I WAS WATCHING HIS FACE, TRUMP’S FACE DURING THE QUOTE AND THERE WAS ONE POINT WHERE HE SMILED I THINK MORE IN AFFECTION FOR THE FACT THAT IT WAS CHURCHILL THAT WAS SPEAKING AS OPPOSED TO LISTENING PARTICULARLY TO THE QUOTE LET ME THROW SOMETHING ELSE AT YOU, ONE THING THAT NEITHER SIDE MENTIONED TODAY, AT LEAST NOT DIRECTLY, WERE THE WORDS “CLIMATE CHANGE” AND WE’RE USED TO WITH TRUDEAU AND OBAMA AND TRUDEAU IN OTHER MEETINGS WITH OTHER WORLD LEADERS, INCLUDING THE THREE AMIGOS, CLIMATE CHANGE WAS ALWAYS A BIG THING ON THE AGENDA AND IT WAS ALWAYS IN ALL OF THE STATEMENTS NOTHING HERE TODAY WHAT DOES THAT TELL US? >> Interview: THAT THEY’RE GOING TO BE PUSHING THAT AGENDA WITH STATE GOVERNMENTS RATHER THAN WITH THE WHITE HOUSE THAT THEY FEEL IT’S NOT WORTH SPENDING POLITICAL CAPITAL ON IT AT THIS STAGE, ESPECIALLY AT THE FIRST MEETING BECAUSE IT’S LIKE THROWING CHANGE UP IN THE AIR BASICALLY I THINK THAT’S WHERE IT IS >> Interview: THEY LOOKED FOR THE OVERLAP IF YOU LOOK AT THAT LONG COMMUNIQUÉ THAT THE WHITE HOUSE ISSUED THAT COULD HAVE BEEN WRITTEN BY THE PRIME MINISTER AND, OBVIOUSLY, MAY WELL HAVE BEEN, IT WAS ALL THE THINGS WHERE THERE’S AN OVERLAP OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE FRAUD AGREEMENT THAT WE’D — BROAD AGREEMENT THAT WE’D LIKE TO HAVE FREE TRADE, AS MUCH AS NOW AND AN AGREEMENT THAT WEIGH WANT TO HAVE SECURITY, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE MEANING OF THAT IS AND SO THEY LOOK FOR THE OVERLAP AND THEY WON’T FOCUS ON THINGS THAT THEY CLEARLY DISAGREE >> Peter: THE PRIME MINISTER IS BACK IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS TOMORROW AND THE OPPOSITION, ONE ASSUMES, IS GOING TO BE STANDING THERE WITH SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS TRIP IS HE VULNERABLE ON ANYTHING TO THEM TOMORROW? >> Interview: I DON’T THINK REALLY EXCEPT MORE TO HIS LEFT THAN TO HIS RIGHT I THINK THAT THE N.D.P. WILL BE TRYING TO SAY — I IMAGINE WILL BE SAYING THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE OVERT AND CRITICAL, PARTICULARLY ON THE IMMIGRATION FRONT AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT IN THE LONG RUN AND I WANT TO SEE THEM PRESSING THAT CASE, INCLUDING IN PUBLIC I JUST DON’T THINK THAT HE NECESSARILY HAD TO DO IT TODAY BUT I IMAGINE THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE POINTS THAT THE N.D.P WILL BE DEBATING >> Peter: CHANTAL, THE LAST WORD? >> Interview: I AGREE WITH ANDREW AND I DON’T THINK THAT THEY’LL PURSUE THAT PARTICULAR VISIT AS SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN ATTACK ON FOR VERY LONG THE REST OF THE RELATIONSHIP WILL PROBABLY PROVIDE MORE MATERIAL >> Peter: ALL RIGHT, GOOD OF YOU BOTH OF YOU TO COME OUT TONIGHT CHANTAL, FACING COLD WEATHER AND A BIT OF SNOW IN MONTREAL AND ANDREW HERE IN TORONTO >>> WHEN WE COME BACK THE VIEW FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BORDER AS DAVID FRUM JOINS US FROM WASHINGTON >>> THEN A BIT LATER… WHAT’S IN A HANDSHAKE? QUITE A BIT WHEN YOU’RE MEETING DONALD TRUMP WE’LL CHECK OUT SOME OF THE MOVES THAT HAVE CAUGHT PEOPLE’S ATTENTION (♪♪♪) >>> TIME TO CHECK THE DAY’S BUSINESS NUMBERS IT WAS A RECORD-BREAKING DAY FOR SEVERAL MAJOR INDICES, INCLUDING THE T.S.X. WHICH GAINED 27 POINTS THE CANADIAN DOLLAR WAS SLIGHTLY UP IN NEW YORK BOTH THE DOW AND THE NASDAQ REACHED RECORD HIGHS MEANWHILE THE PRICE OF OIL FELL 93 CENTS A BARREL

(♪♪♪) (♪♪♪) >> Peter: WELL, THROUGHOUT THE PAST YEAR DAVID FRUM HAS BEEN HELPING WITH US OUR COVERAGE OF U.S. POLITICS AND DONALD TRUMP IN PARTICULAR AS A SENIOR EDITOR OF “THE ATLANTIC” HE’S A MUST READ FOR THESE FOLLOWING THESE EXTRAORDINARY TIMES IN U.S POLITICS HE’S IN WASHINGTON TONIGHT DAVID, ANY DISCUSSION OF WHAT HAPPENED IN WASHINGTON TODAY CAN’T IGNORE THE FACT THAT THERE’S CHAOS IN THE WHITE HOUSE ON A LOT OF ISSUES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH CANADA AND AS A RESULT OVER THESE THREE OR FOUR HOURS THAT HE SPENT WITH JUSTIN TRUDEAU YOU HAVE TO WONDER HOW ENGAGED HE WAS KNOWING THAT ALL OF THIS OTHER STUFF WAS GOING ON? >> Interview: FROM A CANADIAN POINT OF VIEW A DISENGAGED DONALD TRUMP IS A SATISFACTORY DONALD TRUMP HE WAS DISENGAGED AND HE READ

THE NOTES THAT WERE PUT IN FRONT OF HIM DUTIFULLY AND WITHOUT INTEREST AND THAT’S A GOOD THING FROM A CANADIAN POINT OF VIEW, BECAUSE WHEN DONALD TRUMP TURNS HIS INTEREST TOWARDS YOU BAD THINGS TEND TO HAPPEN >> Peter: THERE DIDN’T APPEAR TO BE ANY OF THOSE MOMENTS, AT LEAST FROM WHAT WE SAW IN PUBLIC TODAY? >> Interview: I THINK THAT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SET-TOWN THIS MEETING IS THAT DONALD TRUMP AIDES READ HIM THE ACT AND THE ONLY REASON THAT HE’S IN THE WHITE HOUSE IS BECAUSE HE WON 150,000 VOTES OVER HILLARY CLINTON AND THOSE STATES ARE MICHIGAN AND WISCONSIN AND PENNSYLVANIA AND THOSE STATES HAVE BEEN UNUSUALLY EXPOSED TO TRADE WITH CANADA JUST A NUMBER FROM PENNSYLVANIA, DONALD TRUMP’S MARGIN IN PENNSYLVANIA WAS 67,000 VOTES AND MORE THAN 300,000 PENNSYLVANIA JOBS DEPEND ON TRADE WITH CANADA IN WISCONSIN AND MICHIGAN, CANADA COUNTS FOR MORE THAN ONE-THIRD OF THOSE STATES’ TOTAL EXPORTS TO THE WHOLE OF PLANET EARTH YOU MESS UP THE U.S.-CANADIAN RELATIONSHIP AND YOU MESS UP THOSE THREE STATES AND YOU MESS UP THE UPPER MIDWEST AND YOU MESS UP DONALD TRUMP’S POLITICAL BASE >> Peter: YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LOT OF ATTENTION SPENT TODAY ON THAT MEETING OVER THE LUNCH HOUR WITH THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT LEADERS FROM BUSINESS — FEMALE LEADERS, WOMEN LEADERS — AND SOME PEOPLE ARE SUGGESTING THAT THIS WAS A SMART CARD PLAYED BY THE CANADIANS IT WAS THEIR IDEA BECAUSE IT INVOLVED, ONE, IVANKA TRUMP, WHOM WE HAVEN’T SEEN A LOT OF SINCE TRUMP BECAME PRESIDENT WAS IT SMART? AND JUST WHAT KIND OF AN IMPACT WOULD THAT HAVE? >> Interview: YOU KNOW, IT WAS SHREWD LOOK, ONE OF THE WAYS THAT DONALD TRUMP IS DIFFERENT FROM PAST PRESIDENTS, IN A WAY YOU GET THE BEST RESULTS BY APPEALING TO HIS WORST INSTINCTS THAT HE IS RUNNING A HIGHLY SELF-INTERESTED ADMINISTRATION AND THOSE WHOM MUST GET ALONG WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION AND THAT IS CORE ALLIES, IMPORTANT TRADING PARTNERS, THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH DONALD TRUMP AS HE IS AND NOT AS YOU WOULD LIKE HIM TO BE, AND THE WAY TO HIS HEART IS BASICALLY THROUGH HIS ECONOMIC INTERESTS, THROUGH HIS VANITY AND THROUGH HIS ATTACHMENT TO HIS DAUGHTER >> Peter: YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE ARE TRYING — YOU HEARD ANDREW AND CHANTAL DEAL WITH IT AS WELL AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF “TWEAK.” SHOULD WE PLACE MUCH EMPHASIS ON THAT OR DOES IT FIT BACK INTO YOUR ANSWER ABOUT THOSE BORDER STATES THAT ARE CRITICAL FOR TRUMP? >> Interview: LOOK, CANADA HAS TWO TRADE INTERESTS IN THE UNITED STATES, SPECIFICALLY CANADIAN INTERESTS AND A BROADER GLOBAL INTEREST THE SPECIFICALLY CANADIAN INTEREST IS REASONABLY EASY TO PROTECT AND THAT’S CANADA’S PARTICULAR ACCESS TO THE U.S MARKET AND BECAUSE OF THOSE THREE STATES THAT PROBABLY IS QUITE DOABLE THE HARDER JOB IS CANADA HAS A BROADER INTEREST IN A STABLE WORLD TRADING ARRANGEMENT AND CANADA ALSO SELLS A LOT TO CHINA AND SOUTH KOREA AND IT’S IMPORTANT THAT DONALD TRUMP NOT BLOW UP THE WORLD TRADING SYSTEM CANADA HAS MUCH LESS INFLUENCE OVER THAT SO THE SPECIFIC CANADIAN INTERESTS YOU CAN ACHIEVE SOME SUCCESSES ON AND THE BROADER INTERESTS ARE GOING TO REQUIRE BROADER WORK BY A LOT OF ALLIES, NOT JUST CANADA >> Peter: WHO WON THE DAY? >> Interview: LOOK, ANY DAY IN WASHINGTON THAT SOMETHING NOT TOTALLY UNPRECEDENTED AND CATASTROPHIC HAPPENS IS A GOOD DAY YESTERDAY I THINK OR THE DAY BEFORE AT MAR-A-LAGO HE WAS READING HIGHLY CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS ILLUMINATED BY A IPHONE THAT CAN BE HACKED BY ANY SPY SERVICE IN THE WORLD AND NOTHING TOO CATASTROPHIC HAPPENED FOR THOSE THREE HOURS THAT JUSTIN TRUDEAU WAS IN WASHINGTON EVERYBODY WON >> Peter: A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TELLING US THAT THE WHITE HOUSE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE AREA OF THE WHITE HOUSE, IS IN SERIOUS CHAOS HAS BEEN FOR A NUMBER OF WEEKS IS THAT OVER THE TOP REPORTING OR IS IT REALLY IN CHAOS? >> Interview: IT’S NOWHERE NEAR THE TOP WE — I HAVE SEEN ROCKY TRANSITIONS BEFORE AND BILL CLINTON IN 1992 HAD A ROCKY TRANSITION AND HE DIDN’T LIKE THE HIERARCHAL WHITE HOUSE AND THE IDEA THAT I’M THE PRESIDENT AND I’M THE BOSS AND I HAVE TO ACT LIKE MY DAD AND GEORGE W. BUSH HAD A DIFFICULT TRANSITION BECAUSE IN THE RECOUNT HE HAD HALF AS MUCH TIME AS MOST PRESIDENTS DO TO START HIS ADMINISTRATION BUT THIS REALLY IS DIFFERENT THIS IS NOT JUST CHAOS, THIS IS — THE PEOPLE IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND IN THE MOST IMPORTANT JOBS REALLY SHOULDN’T HAVE THOSE JOBS WE HAVE THE WEAKEST WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF EVER AND WE HAVE A WHITE HOUSE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR WHO IS SUSPECTED OF BEING UNDER FOREIGN INFLUENCE AND A WEAK WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL AND WE HAVE PRETTY NIHILISTIC PERSONALITIES THROUGHOUT THE WEST WING IT’S A VERY ROCKY PLACE AND, OF COURSE, WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO IS FITFUL AND UNDISCIPLINED IT’S NOT — IT’S SUBSTANTIALLY WEIRDER THAN USUAL THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THERE’S ALWAYS A FEDERAL BUREAUCRACY AND ALSO CONGRESS AND CANADA HAS A LOT OF FRIENDS IN WASHINGTON AND THERE’S A LOT THAT DEPENDS ON THIS RELATIONSHIP AND PEOPLE KNOW IT SO THERE’S MANY PEOPLE, NOT JUST

THE PRESIDENT, AND, FORTUNATELY, NOT JUST THE PRESIDENT, WHO ARE INVESTED IN MAKING THE RELATIONSHIP WORK >> Peter: ALL RIGHT, WE’LL LEAVE IT AT THAT DAVID, ALWAYS GOOD TO TALK TO YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH >> Interview: THANK YOU >> Peter: WE’LL TALK AGAIN SOON WITH DAVID FRUM I’M SURE COMING UP NEXT IT’S A TENSE NIGHT FOR ASYLUM SEEKERS HOPING TO MAKE IT TO CANADA WILL U.S. AUTHORITIES RESPECT THEIR S (♪♪♪) >> Peter: BORDER SECURITY WAS A MAJOR THEME OF TODAY’S MEETING AT THE WHITE HOUSE BUT ONE ISSUE NOT DISCUSSED WAS THE SURGE OF ASYLUM SEEKERS ENTERING CANADA FROM THE UNITED STATES BY FOOT IN RECENT WEEKS WE’VE SHARED THE STORIES OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE THE DESPERATE TRIP AND NOW THAT INCREASED TRAFFIC IS PUTTING EXTRA STRAIN ON AID GROUPS ON BOTH SIDES OF BORDER KAREN PAULS HAS MORE >> Reporter: THESE REFUGEE CLAIMANTS CAME SEVERAL WEEKS AGO AND THEY DON’T HAVE A PLACE TO STAY LIKE MANY OTHERS THEY WALKED OVER THE BORDER AND THEY WERE INTERCEPTED BY THE RCMP, INTERVIEWED AND CLEARED BY THE CANADIAN BORDER SERVICE AGENCY AND THEN HANDED OVER TO LOCAL AID AGENCIES BUT THOSE GROUPS SAY WITH DOZENS COMING OVER ALMOST EVERY WEEKEND THEY’RE TAPPED OUT >> Interview: WE NEED YOUR HELP >> Reporter: THEY’RE SCOURING THE CITY FOR APARTMENTS, ASKING

LAW STUDENTS TO HELP TO FILL OUT REFUGEE APPLICATIONS AND TRYING TO RAISE ONE MILLION DOLLARS >> Interview: RIGHT NOW OUR IMMEDIATE NEED IS FINANCIAL >> Reporter: MANY OF THESE ASYLUM SEEKER COMES FROM THE MINNEAPOLIS AREA OR AT LEAST THEY’RE USING IT AS A TRANSIT HUB MANY LIVING UNDER DEPORTATION ORDERS IN THE UNITED STATES AND LIVING IN FEAR OF IMMIGRATION RAIDS LIKE THIS ONE SOME ACTIVISTS ARE SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THE RAIDS, OTHERS ARE TAKING A DIFFERENT APPROACH PASTOR JAMES ERLANSAN IS ONE OF THE CONGREGATIONS THAT OFFERED UP THEIR BUILDINGS AS SANCTUARY >> Interview: MAYBE PUT A PRIVACY CURTAIN OR SOMETHING >> Reporter: THIS CHOIR STORAGE ROOM COULD BE TEMPORARY HOUSING FOR PEOPLE AFRAID OF IMMIGRATION RAIDS AND FOR THOSE THINKING ABOUT CROSSING THE INTERNATIONAL BORDER ON FOOT >> Interview: WHY SHOULD THEY MAKE THAT JOURNEY AND LOSE FINGERS AND TOES IN THE COLD? LET’S KEEP THEM SAFE AND WARM HERE >> Reporter: THERE’S NO LAW SAYING THAT IMMIGRATION OFFICERS CAN’T RAID A CHURCH BUT THE ISAIAH GROUP IS COUNTING ON A LONG-STANDING TRADITION OF SAFE HOUSES >> Interview: WE HAVE A HISTORY IN THIS COUNTRY OF CHURCHES BEING ABLE TO PRACTISE THEIR FAITH FREELY AND THAT INVOLVES OFFERING SANCTUARY TO PEOPLE >> Reporter: TODAY THE RCMP SAID THAT ANOTHER SEVEN PEOPLE CROSSED INTO MANITOBA GROUPS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER ARE CONCERNED AND WHILE THEY DON’T SEE A SOLUTION THEY SAY THEY’LL KEEP HELPING AS LONG AS THERE’S A NEED KAREN PAULS, CBC NEWS, WINNIPEG >> Peter: NICK PURDEN HAS ALSO BEEN INVESTIGATING THE SURGE IN BORDER CROSSINGS AND TOMORROW NIGHT HE’LL HAVE A STORY YOU WON’T WANT TO MISS >> Reporter: THIS BORDER CROSSING IN MANITOBA HAS BEEN MAKING HEADLINES FOR WEEKS >> Interview: WALKING ON IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT MY LEGS WERE SHAKING I ALMOST WAS GIVING UP BECAUSE I WAS SO TIRED AND I COULDN’T THINK OF GOING FORWARD AT THAT TIME BECAUSE I THINK THAT I MIGHT DIE BECAUSE IT WAS COLD >> Reporter: WHEN I SPENT THE NIGHT ON THE BORDER THIS WEEKEND AT 4:30 a.m., I CAME ACROSS SOMETHING INCREDIBLE THAT STORY TOMORROW ON “THE NATIONAL.” >> Peter: TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE STILL OUT OF THEIR HOMES IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA PROBLEMS AT A DAM THREATEN TO UNLEASH FLOODWATERS INTO THEIR CITIES THE ISSUE ISN’T THE DAM ITSELF, IT’S THE BACK-UP MEASURES THESE SPILLWAYS ARE MEANT TO DIVERT WATER WHEN LEVELS GET TOO HIGH BUT WHEN USED AFTER RECENT HEAVY RAINS THE PATHS ERODE KIM BRUNHUBER HAS THE STORY FROM NEARBY >> Reporter: THE ALERT CAME, WORD SPREAD, GET OUT NOW >> Interview: OUR PHONE STARTED GOING OFF AND WE IMMEDIATELY LOADED UP THE KIDS AND TOOK OFF >> Interview: I HAVE PEOPLE ALMOST HITTING ME AND RUNNING ME OVER AND IT WAS INSANE >> Reporter: TOWNS ALL AROUND AMERICA’S TALLEST DAM EMPTIED OUT, ALMOST 200,000 PEOPLE FORCED TO EVACUATE AND MANY OF THEM NOW GATHERED IN SHELTERS AND CHURCHES AND FAIRGROUNDS, ANYWHERE THAT WILL TAKE THEM >> Interview: EVERYBODY LITERALLY THREW EVERYTHING IN THEIR CARS AND THEY WERE GONE >> Reporter: AFTER MORE THAN FIVE YEARS OF DROUGHT NOW THE OPPOSITE PROBLEM, ONE THEY’VE NEVER FACED BEFORE LAKE OROVILLE, ONE OF CALIFORNIA’S LONGEST MANMADE LAKE, HAS BEEN RISING SO RAPIDLY THAT FIRST THE DAM’S SPILLWAY STARTED TO ERODE AND THEN THEY TURNED TO THE EMERGENCY SPILLWAY THAT HADN’T BEEN USED SINCE IT WAS BUILT MORE THAN 50 YEARS AGO BUT IT TOO STARTED TO ERODE IF ENOUGH EARTH WASHES AWAY MILLIONS OF LITRES OF LAKE WATER WILL GUSH OVER NEARBY TOWNS >> Interview: WHAT WE’RE LOOKING AT IS APPROXIMATELY A 30-FOOT WALL OF WATER COMING OUT OF THE LAKE, NOT A LAKE DRAIN BUT A 30-FOOT WALL OF WATER >> Reporter: THE EROSION HAS STOPPED — FOR NOW THEY’VE BEEN WORKING ON REPAIRING THE SPILLWAYS AND THEY’RE HOPING TO DROP THESE GIANT BOULDERS TO SHORE UP THE AREA >> Interview: THE LAKE LEVELS ARE CONTINUING TO FALL OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO LOWER THE LAKE LEVEL BY 50 FEET IN ORDER TO PREPARE FOR FUTURE INFLOW OF WATER DUE TO STORMS AND PRECIPITATION >> Reporter: AND THAT’S THE BIG WORRY NOW LATER THIS WEEK FORECASTERS EXPECT STORMS THAT COULD BRING FIVE TO 15 CENTIMETRES OF RAIN, IT’S ANOTHER HUGE CHALLENGE FOR A SYSTEM THAT HAS MANAGED TO AVERT DISASTER WITHOUT ENTIRELY PASSING THE TEST KIM BRUNHUBER, CBC NEWS, YUBA CITY, CALIFORNIA >> Peter: THERE’S A SHOCKING 2016, MORE THAN 750 PEOPLE WERE KILLED, THE MOST IN THE U.S AND MORE THAN 4,000 PEOPLE WERE SHOT BUT EVEN IN THAT ENVIRONMENT WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE WEEKEND HAS SHAKEN THE CITY

11-YEAR-OLD TAKIYA HOMES AND A 12-YEAR-OLD WERE BOTH SHOT IN THE HEAD IN SEPARATE INCIDENTS BOTH BYBYSTANDERS >> Interview: BY THE TIME SHE WAS SHOT SHE WAS PRONOUNCED DEAD AND SHE CAME BACK AND SHE DIED AGAIN AND HE CAME BACK >> Peter: IN ADDITION TO THE TWO GIRLS, 25 OTHER PEOPLE WERE SHOT AROUND THE CITY OVER THE WEEKEND >>> 32 PEOPLE ARE DEAD IN TAIWAN AFTER A BUS LOST CONTROL ON AN EXIT RAMP MOST OF THE VICTIMS WERE ELDERLY 12 OTHERS ARE BEING TREATED IN HOSPITAL >>> NO ONE WANTS TO BE OUT OF THEIR HOUSE FOR TOO LONG WHEN IT’S GETTING REPAIRED BUT NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE WOULD HAVE A STORY LIKE THIS TO TELL IT’S THE LATEST FROM THE CBC’S “GO PUBLIC” TEAM AND ROSA MARCHITELLI >> Interview: IF WE GET SOME ANSWERS AND GET OUR HOUSE BACK, YOU KNOW, OUR LIFE BACK, YOU CAN QUIT YOUR TWO JOBS AGAIN AND GO BACK TO WHERE YOUR LIFE ONCE WAS >> Reporter: IT IS TIGHT LIVING, A 300-FOOT-SQUARE TRAILER THAT IS NOW HOME FOR BOB AND SHIRLEY GOUGH AND THEY SHARE IT WITH THEIR SONS AND THREE DOGS IT’S ON THE DRIVEWAY OF WHAT USED TO BE THEIR DREAM HOME >> Interview: IT WENT FROM A SIMPLE TREE FALLING ON OUR HOME TO MEGA-DESTRUCTION >> Reporter: THE GOUGHS HIRED A CONTRACTOR RECOMMENDED BY THEIR LONG-TIME INSURANCE COMPANY WAWANESA >> Interview: WE FELT THAT WE HAVE A CLAIM AND THEY HAVE GOOD PEOPLE WHAT THEY CALL FOR PREFERRED VENDORS IS FINE FOR US >> Reporter: IT WAS ANYTHING BUT FINE THE HOLE IN THE ROOF WAS LEFT OPEN FOR EIGHT MONTHS AND COVERED ONLY WITH A NYLON TARP AND RODENTS GOT INSIDE THE WALLS >> Interview: IT WASN’T JUST SQUIRRELS AND BIRDS, IT WAS RATS ANYONE THAT HAS COME AND GONE OUT OF THIS ATTIC HAS BEEN WEARING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS AND A LOT BETTER RESPIRATOR >> Reporter: THEIR INSURANCE CALLED IN A SECOND PREFERRED VENDOR TO DO PEST CONTROL AND IT USED POISON INSTEAD OF TRAPS AND THE HOLE IN THE ROOF WAS SEALED BY THE CONTRACTOR WITH THE DEAD RODENTS INSIDE THERE’S FLIES ALL OVER AND A LOT OF HOLES IN THE WALLS FROM THE COMPANY HIRED TO CLEAN IT ALL UP >> Interview: IT JUST GOES ON AND ON AND ON AND ON >> Reporter: WAWANESA DIDN’T ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS OF HOW IT CHOOSES ITS PREFERRED VENDORS THE WEBSITE SAYS THAT IT PROVIDES HOMEOWNERS NAMES OF CONTRACTORS WITH WHICH IT’S HAD GOOD EXPERIENCE AND HAVE QUALITY CLAIM REPAIRS ALMOST EVERY INSURANCE COMPANY HAS CONTRACTORS THEY RECOMMEND TO DO REPAIRS MUCH >> Interview: IT’S BECAUSE THEY’RE CHEAP >> Reporter: THE GOUGHS AND THEIR INSURANCE COMPANY ARE LOCKED IN A FORMAL DISPUTE RESOLUTION PROCESS OVER THE COST OF REPAIRING THAT DAMAGE WAWANESA BELIEVES THAT THERE WILL BE A FAIR OUTCOME BUT THE PROCESS TAKES MONTHS AND IN THE MEANTIME THE GOUGHS ARE STILL LIVING IN THAT TRAILER ROSA MARCHITELLI, CBC NEWS, CALGARY >> Peter: ONE OF SASKATCHEWAN’S FOREMOST CITIZENS HAS PASS AWAY HE WAS AN ACTOR AND AN ACTIVIST AND AN EDUCATOR BUT PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY HE THREW HIMSELF INTO THE CAUSE OF PRESERVING THE PLAINS CREE CULTURE AND LANGUAGE >> AND THERE’S A PROCESS THAT WAS DISRUPTED… AND A LOT OF IT WAS PASSED ON FROM GRANDFATHER TO FATHER FROM GRANDFATHER TO SON >> Peter: TOOTOOIS RECORDED THE ORAL HISTORIES PROVIDED BY THE ELDERS AND CALLING HIMSELF A STORY KEEPER AND HE SPENT A LOT OF TIME EXPLAINING THOSE STORIES TO STUDENTS FOR 15 YEARS HE WAS THE KEY DRIVER OF POWWOWS HELD BY THE FEDERATION OF SOVEREIGN INDIGENOUS NATIONS A GROUP THAT HIS GRANDFATHER HELPED FOUND BUT HIS ROOTS WERE EVEN DEEPER, A DIRECT DESCENDANT OF THE FAMOUS 19th CENTURY LEADER KNOWN IN ENGLISH AS CHIEF POUNDMAKER TYRONE TOOTOOIS DIED OF CANCER AT THE AGE OF 58 >>> UP NEXT, DONALD TRUMP AND THE ART OF THE HANDSHAKE WE SCOUT HIS SIGNATURE MOVES (♪♪♪) ♪ [hip hop]

(♪♪♪) (♪♪♪) >> Peter: WHEN TWO LEADERS MEET IT’S NOT ALWAYS ABOUT WHAT THEY SAY, AT LEAST IN WORDS JUSTIN TRUDEAU AND DONALD TRUMP HAVE PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD READYING THEIR — OR READING THEIR BODY LANGUAGE, SPECIFICALLY THEIR HANDS (♪♪♪) THERE’S PERHAPS NO BETTER WAY TO EXPRESS A SENSE OF CONTROL IN BUSINESS AND IN POLITICS THAN A FIRM HANDSHAKE FOR TRUMP IT’S A FULL CONTACT SPORT AND HE’S GOT A FEW POWER MOVES THE FIRST WE’LL CALL “THE INWARD YANK.” AN EXAMPLE? WHEN HE ANNOUNCED HIS SUPREME COURT NOMINEE MISSIVE, SLOW IT DOWN AND FROM THE SIDE, NOT ONE BUT TWO YANKS HIS OTHER TECHNIQUE, THE REASSURING TOP TAP WE SAW IT IN ACTION DURING THAT 19-SECONDHAND SHAKE WITH JAPAN’S SHINZO ABE TWO TAPS AND TWO YANKS FOR THOSE KEEPING SCORE SO NOW YOU KNOW SOME OF HIS MOVES HOW DID TRUDEAU DO IN HIS FIRST ROUND? NO YANKS, NO TAPS, TRUDEAU ALMOST LEADS WITH HIS OWN MOVE, WE’LL CALL IT “THE DELTOID BRACE.” BUT ROUND TWO IN THE OVAL OFFICE IS A DIFFERENT MATTER LOOKS SHORT AND SWEET, RIGHT? NO SPECIAL MOVES HERE BUT ONE FRAME THAT’S GETTING A LOT OF ATTENTION, ALBEIT OUT OF CONTEXT, IS THIS ONE SHOT FROM REUTERS THE FRONT PAGE OF “THE GUARDIAN”, “GQ” AND “NEW YORK” MAGAZINE AND ALL PHOTOSHOP VERSIONS, AND WITH JOKES ABOUT THE SIZE OF HIS HANDS TO THE HOLOGRAM OF THE DEATH STAR A FEW CANADIAN FLAVOURS TOO SOME POUTINE ON A PLATE AND LAST YEAR’S FAVOURITE, TINY DRAKE I LIKE THE DRAKE ONE THAT’S “THE NATIONAL” FOR THIS MONDAY NIGHT FOR NEWS AT ANY HOUR YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO OUR WEBSITE cbcnews.ca I’M PETER MANSBRIDGE THANKS FOR WATCHING (♪♪♪)