University Town Hall – April 2020

Hi, everyone I’m Chuck Wight, SU’s president, and I want to thank you all for joining us for today’s university town hall We began these quarterly town meetings in January as part of our ongoing commitment to improving communication with our university community And at each meeting, I am joined by representatives of one of our campus’ shared governance groups tonight’s meeting is co-hosted by the SU faculty senate Before we get started, I just want to thank all of our students faculty, staff, alumni, donors, parents, our entire Seagull family for the way that you all have stepped up, pulled together, and supported each other during these very difficult and unprecedented times It’s no small feat to take all of the instruction and operations of a university our size and move it all online in a week But you made that happen Faculty, staff, and students working together I truly have never been prouder to be a member of a campus community than you have made me in these past few weeks I’m joined today by Dr. Adam Wood, who is president of the faculty senate, and Dr. Randy Cone, vice president of the faculty senate And Adam, I’ll send it over to you Thank you, president White I just wanted to thank everybody as well It really has been tremendous for me to see particularly from the faculty side of things how faculty have really stepped forward and converted their classes so quickly And it’s really remarkable the myriad ways that people are doing it Some people are going full Zoom, some people are recording lecturers, but it really has been amazing to me that everyone has really stepped forward and thought first and foremost about how do we continue to deliver instruction to students above themselves and their own concerns So I would just like to thank the faculty and the staff for really helping us do that Dr. Cone? Hi Again, to echo what we’ve just heard, thank you, faculty, thank you, students, thank you, staff and administration, for staying with us This is trying Please keep communicating with us This is a really important thing to be addressing The communication issues that are being addressed in terms of the remote education, the meetings that we’re having now in keeping the university running and in these new times So please, faculty and students and staff, stay in touch with us, share what you’re going through, the good, the bad, the things that we don’t understand So doctors Wood and Cone, thank you for co-hosting this with me today And I know we all expressed our appreciation to the faculty who have gone well above and beyond the semester in making a very quick transition to allow instruction to continue remotely during this COVID-19 pandemic Our audience may not be aware that some faculty evolved but also been instrumental in community efforts to fight the coronavirus as well, from collecting and donating personal protective equipment to 3D printing safety equipment for local hospitals to organizing deliveries for those in self confinement to establishing online educational tools, such as the new ESRGC statewide COVID-19 dashboard If you haven’t seen it yet, go to and look for the link to the COVID-19 dashboard It’s pretty interesting So the university thanks you all for your diligence Now, we received many, many questions to our email address And it’s time to get to some of those The first one, we received a lot of questions about off-campus housing There are students who are not being let out of leases or getting other kinds of relief And I just wanted to let you know that we are working with the SGA and the Graduate Student Council to see how landlords off-campus may

be able to better support students You may know that University Park, which is run as a public-private partnership, did give refunds to students They have a relatively close relationship with SU Cruise Rentals is already discounting rents I think for the Summer And some landlords are giving a little bit of relief But we’re working with landlords to try to make sure that they know that some of the students and their units are hurting a lot And that if they can possibly do it, they need to help students Adam, do you want to take the next one? Right Yeah The next question really was about the pass/no pass option A lot of people are calling it a pass/fail option, but it’s a pass/no pass option You know, this is really sort of how shared governance works, right? When we think about curriculum and instruction, this is the faculty side of the house And so this began two weeks ago at an emergency faculty senate meeting where a senator brought forth a motion to make an optional pass/no pass possibility for students So any student in any course, as long as they do this before the current drop date of April 17 can elect to have a course graded on a pass/no pass option They can still stick with the traditional A, B, C, D, F, or they can go with this pass/no pass option If they choose this pass/no pass option, there are really no negative repercussions for doing poorly in a class, right? So the student, even if they end up with a no pass grade in the class, there is no negative impact on their GPA whatsoever So students really need to think about and talk with their faculty members and their advisors about which is the best choice for each student and for each individual class, right? But this really does allow for a lot of flexibility Faculty are going to be very willing to talk to students about this because the main thing is that we know how crazy a time this is and what a difficult shift this has been to online learning And the faculty senate really wanted to step forward and present this option to try to alleviate some of that stress I’m thrilled to say that it was unanimously voted in and it was immediately accepted by the provost and the provost to the president The administration very quickly went into high gear to figure out exactly how to build this into the system And within a week, it was entirely built and sort of released to everyone Again, there are still some questions about it I encourage students to look at the student resources page But the main thing, again, is to reach out to your faculty members and your advisors and really speak to them and get the best advice you can about which choice is right for each student in each class Randy, did you want to add anything to that? Yeah Still there is some question as to when the deadline is for that change of grading method It’s been advertised as being attached to the date of April 17 There’s been a question about is that going to be time enough Originally, it’s tied to the last date to drop with a grade of W was moved And so that the current change of grading method is tied to that last day of withdrawal date And that has the potential they get moved back further So I know that the faculty senate has talked about this in chambers about whether or not we should go ahead and do that I think the recommendation may be to go to April 30 And that’s under discussion now So if you have thoughts about that, please weigh in Thank you OK Thanks, Randall We got a lot of questions about commencement And as you all know, because of the governor’s stay at home order and closing the campus to the public, we had to cancel the in-person ceremony that was scheduled for May of this year But we remain absolutely committed to giving our graduates an in-person graduation ceremony And the question is when So we have tentatively scheduled commencement exercises for the weekend of December 18 through 20 at the Wicomico Youth and Civic Center in Salisbury The civic center is available for those dates and we’re going to see how many students are

going to participate And so the details of exactly what times these are scheduled is going to be a little bit up in the air for a while Our graduates are going to receive a pre-commencement congratulations package in May or in June And of course, the diplomas when they are issued Normally, diplomas are mailed to students through the US mail And so that will happen regardless when the diplomas are ready But the commencement ceremonies are tentatively scheduled for December 18 through 20 So put that on your calendar, but don’t buy your airline tickets yet There are many, many questions that need to be answered It’s hard to predict what the progress of the pandemic is going to look like, hard to know what the governor is going to do in terms of stay at home or stay isolated orders But tentatively, we are planning for the class of 2020 to participate in commencement exercises in December We also got a lot of questions about move out, like what are we doing now, why is there confusion, when will people be able to get their belongings And I’m delighted to tell you I checked with Dave Katowski this morning Move out is very nearly complete There was some confusion due to the governor’s order, but our staff in student affairs did a great job of coordinating the move-out activities to keep people isolated from one another We got a lot of really great comments from parents and students about the way that that was organized So people were able to come and collect their belongings I think the last of the people to come and collect their belongings will be this week There are, of course, some students who are unable to retrieve their belongings at all due to out-of-state issues or a variety of issues And for those people, we are safely securing their belongings And when they come to campus, they will be able to collect them Adam and Randy, are you going to take the next one? Right Yeah Next one up is about summer session A decision has been made, and I think very much rightfully so, that summer courses will be fully online Better be safe than sorry Again, I think we will all be stuck inside for a little while So all of the current courses that are listed on GullNet for summer, if they have not already been converted over to online, will be converted over to online in the next few days Some of those classes, again, will be synchronous You know, Zoom live classes, others will have recorded lectures So again, I would reach out to the individual faculty members or departments that are offering those classes From what I understand right now, the pass/no pass option is only for this semester So come summer, we’ll be moving back to the traditional grading scale I think the hope is that people will have kind of settled into both their teaching and their learning online and we’ll be able to move forward as well as we can with these online classes in the summer Again, we’re hoping to be back face-to-face in the fall, but a lot of that is dependent on things much beyond our power So as of right now, though, summer classes are still on, but they will be held online What about clinicals? Clinicals I would encourage students, first of all, to go to the student page on the COVID-19 page But I will– I have this written out, so pardon me for reading it Clinicals “The deans and program directors have been working very hard on this and in collaboration with the USM system and accrediting bodies For education students, roughly 97% will be able to complete their teaching internship through alternate activities For students in health care-related programs, many are completing their clinical through alternative activities or continued placements in health care facilities, and many will be graduating actually early to have them helping with the COVID-19.” So again, we’re hoping that the impact on clinical will be pretty minimal Again, I encourage students to really be in touch with their faculty directors and with their departments I know that the university is doing everything it can to make sure that students who were set up to graduate will be graduating on time So again, I point to that about 97% So the impact we’re hoping will be a challenge, but will be certainly negotiable OK

Thanks, Adam We had questions about SU employees and layoffs, like what is the university doing to help those who are being laid off, how many people have we had to lay off, are we expecting any more, any information about potential furloughs We had about 140 contractual employees, mostly in dining services and housekeeping, and we did release those employees from their contracts That’s a formal process that allows them to then collect unemployment The vast majority of our employees continue to work and continue to be paid We don’t have any information on furloughs We will continue to pay as many people as long as possible, but we are going to be under some limitations that are imposed by the state and some limitations imposed by the financial ability of the university to sustain itself without the income that we need to do that So we are committed to our employees, but so far, about 140 have been released from their contracts There’s also a question about support for faculty, staff, and students What are we doing to support them in this environment with online services and technology, and how are we keeping things going and the trainings and offerings that are being provided to faculty Well, we really appreciate the tremendous efforts of our faculty and staff as we moved to online instruction and remote work The Center for Instructional Design and Delivery, ID&D, and our instructional designers in CHHS and the Purdue School have done just an amazing job of supporting faculty in this transition to online teaching And similarly, the people in our Office of Information Technology have been pedaling as fast as they can The IT help desk has been going and the associate provost have worked really hard to get needed computers and connectivity for students, staff, and faculty We’ve increased our campus subscription to LinkedIn Learning That’s the thing that used to be known as It’s a professional development platform So everybody on campus or employees has access to this very powerful platform Membership in the National Center for Faculty Development and Diversity begins on April 15 And that provides access to several professional development experiences for faculty and graduate students Let’s see Faculty worked diligently to get their courses online, including several visual clinical experiences and demonstrations And our library faculty and staff are working hard to maximize access to their collections and databases And several vendors have provided free access to databases or journals during COVID-19 Next question is, how does SU plan to mitigate the financial fallout because of this pandemic-induced economic recession? Well, I have to say that my predecessor, Janet Dudley-Eshbach, left her role as president here with this institution in really good financial shape We have really adequate reserves, something we call fund balance in the system, to meet emergencies like this And we’re using those funds to continue to pay our employees as long as possible And that helps to keep the local economy going also So yes This is a troubled time, but we’re still in pretty good shape financially And so we are going to use those resources to help as many people as we can The next question is, is there a mitigation plan in case of reinfection after the campus opens in fall of 2020? Well, first of all, no firm decisions have been made for the fall, but we are tentatively planning to teach classes face-to-face in the fall And I emphasize the word tentative While also being prepared to transition online if necessary

The experts tell us that most coronaviruses respond to the summer heat by being tamped down a little bit And that is going to help us to flatten the curve and ease some of the restrictions that we are in now if that goes as it’s thought And so if we’re able to open the campus to face-to-face classes in the fall, then that will be great But seasonal flu’s do pop up again in late fall, early winter And so our faculty and our staff– really we all have to be prepared for the possibility that we might have to go back online as the flu season progresses So we’re just going to have to see what the progress of the disease is like and how well people are social distancing so that we can prevent or at least minimize that re-infection if it occurs The next question Will there be hiring freezes if the state mandates budget cuts due to decreased revenue collections? Well, right now, I would say that we’re in sort of a soft hiring freeze We’re being very cautious about hiring, making sure that we absolutely need to proceed in those cases where we need to proceed We anticipate that the state of Maryland, the governor will likely institute a hiring freeze But if that happens, then we, SU, we’ll seek exceptions where it’s absolutely necessary The next question Many students are faced with financial distress with parents losing work and students unable to continue working, leading to dropping from the University How can we mitigate such an unfortunate loss of potential undergraduates? Will the USM and SU create a lending program to such students to help them complete their degree? Well, fortunately, so far the number of students who have expressed this is very small We are anticipating that our enrollments are going to be down at least a little bit in the fall However, we are contacting each of our prospective students and also our continuing students to check in with them and see how they’re doing If they for one reason or another are not planning to attend the university in the fall, we’re asking the reason why, and then really going to work to try to see if we can mitigate whatever barriers there are to coming back One of the lessons that we have learned in recessions and particularly the great recession of 2010 is that when recessions occur, unemployment goes up And the people who are best able to withstand that stress on the economy are people with college degrees So finishing that degree, getting that degree is most important even in a recession Chuck, can I ask a follow-up question on that really quick? Sure Yes In reading different things from the Chronicle of Higher Ed, Inside Higher Ed, there are discussions about that the concern is that the illness will keep students away, but oftentimes recession tends to bring more students in I was wondering if you might share your thoughts on that sort of split that we’re looking at I think all bets are off this time Both tendencies are going to be present And so I think the number of people coming back to school is focused at least largely in adult students, people who have some college but no degree But the students are just coming out of high school or maybe they’re in the process of earning their degrees, maybe more likely to stay away during a time when we have a stay-at-home order in effect So I actually don’t know which of those effects will be larger Fortunately, everything that we’re looking at seems to point to a fairly minor decrease in enrollment, and of course probably in state funding But not something that’s catastrophic Thank you Do you want to take the next one? Yeah The next question about, as a pre-tenure faculty member going up for promotion and tenure this fall, how might the course evaluations from this semester be factored into decisions?

Before I get to that specific question, I do want to say that the faculty senate started three weeks ago, went into sort of emergency mode, we’ve been meeting every week and have been addressing a number of issues sort of like this So one of the first motions that was presented and, again, was unanimously passed, was offering tenured faculty members the option of extending their tenure promotion timeline by a year, right? So we know that we are kept out of labs and libraries and all these kind of things, so we’re not really going to be able to do the research that we’re expected to do So any faculty member who is on the tenured track may request to add a 1-year extension to their tenure promotion clock That was one of the first and most important things that we really addressed We currently have a motion on the table about the very specific issue of teaching evaluations There’s obviously quite a bit of concern that these student evaluations are not going to be as strong as they might be, given the way that we’ve had to make a very, very quick shift online learning And this is particularly challenging for untenured faculty members, but also our adjunct faculty members who are evaluated very closely on how their students evaluate them The motion that is currently up for debate in the faculty senate in essence would make the use of the evaluations for this semester optional Right? So if faculty want to use that for the professional development to enhance how they are teaching to think about how they were teaching online, that they would still be able to do that, but they would not really be penalized for some issues within those teaching evaluations that are, again, largely going to be tied to the shift in online learning Again, that motion is still up for discussion There are concerns, of course, that how do we evaluate faculty this semester We don’t have those student evaluations, but we also have to recognize that this is a pretty dramatic time And so I think in the same way that we wanted to extend to students the option or the pass/no pass to sort of mitigate some of that tension We wanted to do the same thing for our untenured faculty And so while that motion is still under discussion– so it’s not been finalized and voted on yet– the faculty senate is very much aware that– I’m sorry, that student evaluations this semester are going to give us some very peculiar results And a lot of the evaluations are probably going to be more reflective on the difficulty of the shift to online than they are on a particular course or a particular faculty member So what I would say in the most general sense is that departments need to be very aware of the perilous nature of student evaluations for this semester And again, the senate is working on this and I’m hoping by the end of the next faculty senate meeting that we will have a motion that we’ll be sending forward to the provost on this Again, I think the chances are that departments will be encouraged to not really consider student evaluations as closely as normal this semester Randy, do you want to add anything to that? The only thing that I would add is that the faculty senate has also been considering the nature of the intellectual property that’s been developed Some really incredible and creative ideas in terms of educational technology and delivery Some ideas have been developed by our faculty So we’ve been working on protecting that intellectual property now as well as thinking about this for the future We have some very new things to address with regards to quick turnarounds with the technology, but the faculty has been asked to examine and/or develop So we’re working on making sure that’s protected for each individual faculty member All right Thank you for that, Randy Another question came in Phrasing is, the request is that faculty be encouraged to communicate with their students and accommodate them if they are experiencing pandemic-related issues which directly impact their schoolwork Again, I think this has really been going on since this started I mean, from the president and the provost down through the deans, through department chairs, faculty have really been encouraged to stay in very close contact with students to make sure that they are able to do the classes, right? That if students can’t do the classes, if they don’t have access to Wi-Fi or to a laptop, to really work with students to be open to thinking about ways

to make students have success in these courses, right? And so I know for a number of departments discussions about being much more flexible, offering incompletes this semester have been discussed But again, I think most faculty– and I’ve not heard anything yet, but most faculty have really been going out of their way to be in constant contact with their students and with their departments to make sure that we’re all on the same sort of page We do want to still uphold academic standards, right? Intellectual standards And yet we also need to understand that this is just a very strange time And so if there are students out there who feel that they’ve not been– you know, had been contacted by their faculty, I would encourage them to reach out to department chairs Again, we are committed to making sure that the students are successful this semester and over the summer and even into the fall, if we have to continue online And so keeping those lines of communication open are really important I also served as a department chair And I have had more Zoom meetings with students in the past week and a half than I think I would have had in normal settings And so there really is a great opportunity to use this as a chance for students and faculty to speak to each other in new ways And so, again, I would really just ask all the faculty– I know you’ve been doing it already, but just continue to keep in touch with students, keep them up to snuff with what you are doing, with what the course is doing, and just be willing to be flexible and understanding in this moment above all things OK Thanks We got a question about our search for a chief diversity officer Has the search committee selected a candidate? Has an offer been made? And with the current financial situation, will that put this position in jeopardy? Well, we are still completely committed to hiring a chief diversity officer In fact, all of the searches that were in the final stages when the pandemic came down on us this last month have continued And we continued the hiring process for this position The search committee made recommendations to me as to a small number of candidates who were, they judged, suitable for the position And I proceeded with checking references And I hope that I’m going to be able to make a public announcement on the outcome of the search very, very soon The next question– excuse me– is, will the faculty senate take up discussing the motion to decouple adding diversity requirement to the Gen-Ed curriculum from the larger Gen-Ed reform? Just a little background if people did know, there was a motion that came up, I believe it was about a month ago now, about including or adding diversity requirement courses to general education As I mentioned, the last three weeks, all of the senate meetings have been really focused on these sort of emergency motions Again, to the pass/no pass option, dealing with tenured faculty issues in terms of extending timelines And so that has obviously taken priority over the past three weeks, right? These were issues that we could not sit on, we could not wait on, we needed to just sort of get that going That being said, there’s been a number of other issues in terms of senate business that have had to be put on hold There are currently, I believe, five different motions that have been sort of having to sit there and wait Again, I’m hoping that the most current faculty senate meeting hopefully will be the last emergency one I can’t say that for sure, but hopefully that will be the case And at that point, the faculty senate will return to discussing not only that one motion, all the motions that have unfortunately been tabled while we dealt with the crisis of COVID-19 So the answer is, yes, I can’t say exactly when Again, there were some other issues that predated that that we need to address first But I am pretty confident that we will at least begin discussions of that motion this semester OK The next question is, is there any news on the investigations into the hate crimes that occurred in the fall and again, this spring? And unfortunately, there is no news that I can report on this right now I assure you that the investigation is still continuing I get periodic reports about it And we are working with the state’s attorney for Wicomico County to bring the matter

to a successful conclusion As soon as we are able, we will release more information, but we’re just not able to do it at this time without compromising the integrity of the investigation Sorry Next question How do current concerns about the overall budget impact adding and activating more security cameras? Well, as you know, last fall we committed additional funding to installing new cameras on campus and upgrading some of our existing cameras We made that a high priority And that work proceeded all winter and into the early spring And now we are in a position where I think we have very good camera coverage of our campus So I think we’re in pretty good shape The next question, could moving all campus buildings to gold card access only be an option for moving forward Well, we were given the governor’s order to close all of our campus buildings to public access So right now, our buildings are on a gold card access only But we’re a public university, and so when we are open to the public we will be fully open Gold card access is a little bit of a clunky system to implement for everyday people going in and out of buildings, but we’re going to figure out particularly in the fall when everybody’s back what’s appropriate for access to the buildings and how to do it The next question, what actions will the university take to address a culture of racism? Well, this is a really important issue and it’s a high priority for my administration And the work of the campus continues I’ve been working with the Office of Diversity and Inclusion to continue the development of training for faculty and staff and students Although a lot of work is now being done electronically, the commitment to training continues And our work in the Office of Diversity and Inclusion will continue The move to online has disproportionately affected low-income students and students from under-resourced communities And we are working to provide access and technology to make those situations more equitable Randy and Adam, do you want to take the next one? Yeah The next question is sort of similarly related in some ways Will we be moving to a more thoughtful and comprehensive diversity training for faculty and staff? The answer is yes I mean, this is certainly a goal moving forward, complicated now in some ways with all of us working remotely But having served on the president’s task force on diversity and inclusion, I know this was certainly one of the suggestions that was put forward, right? That committee was created to in some ways kind of think through what we imagined the Office of Diversity and Inclusion and the new chief diversity officer to really pick up with as soon as they got going Obviously, the officers staff– we’re waiting for the chief diversity officer But that sort of diversity training I think is certainly very much in line with plans that are being made at the administrative level and through the Office of Diversity and Inclusion There are some of those online trainings that have already been done We’ve had these things for a while I believe that the idea is to try to move forward with more face-to-face training Obviously, if we’re not here in the fall, that will certainly prove more complicated But I think to say that the university is really dedicated to addressing issues of racism and diversity and inclusion on every front possible, the commitment is there Again, the setback of being online this semester slowed things down a little bit, but I have no doubt that this is still very much at the forefront of the administration’s mind and of the faculties’ mind And that work is continuing and will continue This is not one-time option This is something that will continue to be worked on for moving into the future for years to come OK Thank you And if I might interject, Karen Olmstead, the provost,

has indicated that the university’s purchased a membership in the National Center for Faculty Development and Diversity And that will begin, that membership will begin in about two weeks– about a week from now, April 15 That will allow the faculty, graduate students, and staff to take advantage of a lot of development opportunities across the board in diversity Next question When will we know if physical classes will be resumed in the fall of 2020? Wow I wish I had a good crystal ball It’s a very uncertain situation And we really don’t know what the expected progress of the disease will be like Earlier I talked about most COVID viruses– coronaviruses being tamped down by summer heat We hope that’s the case with this one But we don’t really know yet On the one hand, we’re going to have to abide by rules and regulations of the State of Maryland and policies of the university system of Maryland But we also have an obligation to do the right thing for the health and safety of our students and our employees And so we’re just going to have to navigate those conflicting pressures But even if we are back face-to-face in the fall, I anticipate that we’re still going to see some changes to the way that we do business You’re going to see fewer large gatherings, you’re going to see efforts to encourage social distancing There are going to be a lot of changes that we hope are going to minimize or forestall a re-infection with the flu season next fall and early winter Next question How will the economic downturn impact staff and students? Wow A lot of ways I mean, obviously, technology is the name of the game in terms of producing a work product I mean, that’s what we’re doing right now this second There’s students– there are some of our students who are housing insecure or food insecure, and we will be there to support our students with the food pantry and other kinds of resources I mentioned earlier that for now, at least 140 of our employees were released from their contracts– contractual employees It’s going to affect everybody in different ways But we are committed to our students and employees and to their well-being And we have considerable resources at the university to provide that support The next question is, is the university making a plan to handle pandemics or epidemics in the future and is there a way to enforce social distancing while keeping people on campus? Well, we have been through pandemics before You can go online and read about the Spanish Flu and SARS and H1N1 There have been pandemics before this one And each time, we learn some new things This is a big one This is very impactful on people’s lives and on the economy And people in society have different kinds of reactions to requests to maintain social distancing So cultures are different in different places The mandates to maintain social distancing are different in China than they are in Italy and still different in the US And as a society, we’ve had to learn some pretty painful lessons when those distance learning– social distancing requests are not heeded I’m reminded that in Ocean City this past month the mayor had asked people to be careful and maintain social distancing And a couple of hundred people on the boardwalk disregarded this And the result was that the mayor closed the beach and the boardwalk

And later on, the governor issued a stay at home order So I think as long as people have reasonable behaviors that protects themselves and each other, we might not need draconian rules, but sometimes people get just beyond the boundaries and the rules become necessary So we’re just going to have to figure out how to manage social distancing on campus if we have that opportunity, and I hope we do And finally, I was asked to provide a reminder that the campus climate survey is still open If you haven’t done it already, fill out the campus climate survey for us It’s really important for us to get a really good idea of not only what our current problems are in terms of the campus climate, but also work toward some easy solutions So Randy and Adam, I’m going to put you on the spot here Have you filled out the campus climate survey yet? I have, indeed I mean, I’m on the committee, so if I didn’t do it, I think I would be in some deep trouble And I have as well Randy? Yes All done OK Good I actually didn’t know the answer to the question before I asked it [LAUGHTER] Thank you Thank you all for going on and filling that out Adam and Randy, thank you for helping to co-sponsor this quarterly town hall meeting I hope people have gotten some answers to your questions This is going to conclude tonight’s presentation, but we continue to welcome your questions at our email address, Everyone, please continue to say stay safe and I look forward to seeing you on campus in the fall, hopefully Thank you all Thank you Thank you