Sustainability Commission 3-11-20

– We’re not talking, (laughs) but you don’t wanna do too much on a PowerPoint (coughs) And fortunately and we’ll get to this in a moment as we talk about kind of some of our partnerships, but John is familiar with some of this work already, as we met with him and we are employing an MB intern for the duration of the semester through the Belen run to help us with some of this work And as I mentioned, there are some sort of low hanging fruit items that we have decided to tackle really immediately this year Our post-race food Show hands who’s done the event, participated in the event, been part of I know that right in your hood there – I loved it – So yeah, which is awesome So as you know, then our post-race food, comes in that Festival Foods plastic bag And has for a number of years just for ease We used to work with the folks at a Spiro to package that up and really easy, really convenient Here’s your banana Here’s your bag of pretzels, all that That’s obviously a huge one, right? Last year we did have the Festival Foods bags to benches Recycling on site, but it’s not the same as not having that waste in the first place So we’re getting rid of that We’re not doing any bags that food will be runoff or one less item And that will be a big impact right there Again, as we’re talking about 10,000 participants That will also apply to our pre-race spaghetti dinner, currently, you get your little, your peppers and your Parmesan and your flatware in a plastic bag We’re gonna be getting rid of that as well So those are hopefully two big impacts right there Increasing and improving our recycling efforts and things it’s suggestion of John in the work of his intern, Carly Our intern through MB, Carly, we’re gonna be working with a local organization given… a Truly increase and improve our recycling efforts because as everybody knows those efforts only go as far as the ability for those recycling to remain uncontaminated And so we’re gonna be working with hopefully a team of volunteers to be there on race day to really be very visible Kind of that Belen run green team We sorting recycling and telling people where to go, there was an idea, depending on what we can do with composting There’s someone in a banana suit This is where your banana peels go, that kind of thing So really to ramp that up, and to make that not only a more visible component of what we do, but to really communicate that to our participants – [Debora Hutchison] And one thing that Kelly doesn’t know so with our corporate challenge, which is about half of our participants, reaching out to our area organizations or companies And just in one kickoff, you kind of mentioned what we’re doing here and it’s gonna take a lot of manpower and to make it really good So we had to give a damn, Associated bank said right away I said to them you guys your logo is green and you have lots of volunteers So there’s gonna jump on to get a group so that we can kind of band together to work on this event – Exactly, we have had some volunteers from the Astra Neighborhood Association in the past It sounds like we won’t necessarily have that team this year, but we’re gonna be relying on that – [Randy Scannell] Astra – Sorry, sir Thank you, Ned for this clarification – A subtle but important distinction – [Ned Dorff] Can I ask what you’re recycling – So, and that’s an excellent question So we are going to be meeting with and I know you’re Mark right? – [Mark Walter] Yeah – well, yeah Okay, so we wanna make sure that those efforts is fruitful as they can be, I guess And we have a meeting set up with, – [Julia Noordyk] Monday morning with waste management – [Mark Walter] Okay – To talk about exactly and of our delegated items for our intern was was to connect with you and your folks and I can make sure you guys in contact – And Hutchison, Toby you are with? – [Seth Hoffmeister] I’m with Brown Connie – So Carly and I talked today about her reaching out our intern – [Mark Walter] Yeah, ’cause waste management brings their stuff to us, and we set the rules for the, Brown to give you Winnebago counties in terms of what’s recyclable On that kind of basis – Yes – [Mark Walter] There’s a lot more stuff you can do with – [Julia Noordyk] Yeah, and she was bring the different, we’re gonna gather the items And then we’re also looking at like compostable cups And she has done the research So she was gonna bring that to your division to see okay, what exactly can we do with these things once we gather them So working with a couple of different organizations knowing that we need to be checking all of our boxes all the way down the line So trying to get as many of the experts in the field to be giving us feedback And, so we’re understanding what we’re supposed to be doing to make this Yeah, that’s good – [Mark Walter] The fact you’re making an effort is–

– [Julia Noordyk] Okay – And as we discussed in one of our initial meetings with john, it’s all well and good for us to say, we’re using compostable cups Well, if you don’t have a place to… them, then that’s it’s not really as effective as it could be So we wanna make sure that we’re crossing our T’s and dotting our eyes as far as those efforts are concerned And can you do… compostable? Can you do recyclable water cups talking about our post-race water and that’s a big area that’s not on here because we are still trying to figure out what to do with that As it is now everybody gets a plastic water bottle Obviously we can recycle those and that would be a part of our efforts But again, the goal would be to have less of that and maybe eventually down the road to go completely bottleless plastic, was at the end We have looked into some again, with Carly’s help some aluminum type options No surprise to anybody in this room that they’re expensive and not something that’s really in our budget at this point But if we are able to work with the right sponsors, can we can we find somebody locally to sponsor that? – [John Arenht] If I could suggest talk to Greenville Botanical Gardens, They have been really making an effort to completely get rid of all their – [Julia Noordyk] Yeah, so Carly, – [Seth Hoffmeister] Okay – Met with… they sent us to a company because I know they’re doing changing all to recite to aluminum And so they connected us with that company, so – [Julia Noordyk] And we did just hear back from them today on those estimates and that’s where we know that to do that to do that, and make that effective, we’re gonna have to, a sponsor for that work – [Seth Hoffmeister] Personally, we had a conversation last month about what’s recyclable, what’s not And this might be a good event to let people know and …even though it’s been true for years, but you don’t know about recycling water bottles, you can leave the cap on and then and the caps will get recycled And this might be one of those events that, like thousands of people can run there – [Julia Noordyk] Yeah and not to, like, take this offline But that’s a great idea But I got sidetracked Is that Monday morning meeting with waste manager, does it make sense to see if we can get that on your calendar as well? We can talk offline on that If it makes sense – [Seth Hoffmeister] Yeah, like this one? – Yeah, that’s 16th – [Mark Walter] 16th, yeah unfortunately, not the I’m not available – Okay – Several things already on my calendar that day – Okay – I’ll connect, we can talk – [John Noordyk] But we’ll make sure yeah – …we talk online too It’s easy – Oh, yeah perfect – [Julia Noordyk] But that’s the interesting thing I didn’t know I always take the caps off ’cause I thought that they weren’t insightful – [Debora Hutchison] And then so is aluminum I better than plastic? In terms of carbon footprint, I think it is – [John Arendt] It’s much more, recyclable – Recyclable – [Debora Hutchison] You can recycle aluminum almost– – Yeah, but how much energy does it take to produce – Significantly less than making it – It’s the number of times the carbon footprint for aluminum is lower than for plastic just because it’s plastic has a life of a limited life cycle, you can only recycle plastic, maybe a dozen times or so before it becomes too contaminated or the wider the chain gets to the grade field recycle it again but aluminum (clears throat) – The aluminum companies so you can recycle them infinitely well okay – Okay – I think …two terms That’s not quite true – [Julia Noordyk] Do you think you’ll go towards like zero waste at some point? – …..Five is like the water thing – Yeah, and that’s the hope so Linda and I went to a running industry conference about a month ago, and this was a big topic, right? So this is a lot of events are looking at There are really some incredible leaders in this space, Chicago Marathon, Houston marathon, beach to beacon 10K out east And we have a good connection through one of our elite athletes, and there are some events that are cupless, they don’t have any plastic water bottles at the end, and that they’re doing this work and so expense logistics, they’re definitely concerns, but we had one of the vendors had And for more like trail races and things like that, just ’cause it’s a little bit of a different beast They had and I should have brought it with me A collapsible, reusable like silicone cup that you can either tuck in a waistband, or there’s a loop that you can just put it around your finger So you have that and then at every water station, they have spigots and you can just quickly fill that and go So there’s a lot happening Certainly in this space, in the industry, we got a lot of amazing ideas and came back with probably more than we could bargain with at this point But in fact, that was one of the sessions they said, well you really kind of wanna do one thing a year And we’re like, well, we’re gonna buy…. a little bit more

about this year So but there are, I mean, it’s certainly that’s the goal to every year Every year have less waste, every year be greener, more sustainable, every year be able to communicate to our participants So hopefully they’re taking that home and using that So, and we’ve been looking at, maybe that after race waters is a little bit of a hybrid So yeah, maybe we still have some plastic bottles and especially it can become having adequate water is a safety issue, obviously, especially on a hot day And so if you tell people, well, we’re not having bottles and you have to bring your own cup and you further up And then it’s this horribly hot day, you can really kind of get yourself in a world of hurt But part of our messaging even starting this year Is gonna be bring that reusable bottle we’re gonna hopefully have some kind of system at the end where people can refill so and again, then hopefully every year It’s some kind of combination Maybe though the aluminum thing I think does…. out and finding that sustainability sponsor to be a part of that So that’s, brings a work in progress But that’s that’s a great question Because eventually, yeah, I mean, that would be amazing to be able to do that and reduce our impact in that way So post-race water is still a huge one A couple more items on this list and than just a few more I’ll mention, shirt packaging Again, our our shirts came individually, each in its own little plastic sleeve And it’s just a matter it was really easy for our volunteers to hand those out We’re not gonna be doing that anymore We’re just called up and said, okay, we don’t wanna see that anymore That’s a huge one We will have a shoe recycling campaign and that’s gonna begin with our training runs Weekly training runs later this month So people can bring in their us running shoes and then those will be recycled (Mumbles) – What’s that (Mumbles) (laughs) – Fair enough – [Julia Noordyk] … knows will be used isn’t the goal they will go to the developing countries, and it will be an enterprise situation for people there So it’s even better I mean, and then the ones that aren’t reused, they are still working process where they will recycle the ones that are just too bad But for them our 400 or 500 mile pair of shoes that we have we put that many miles on is brand new to them So we will that’s even better ’cause it’s a reuse situation – For sure So, a couple other things I just wanna mention and then we can talk about the corporate challenge giveaway and that’ll be on the next slide But we’ve been talking to various folks and partners and again, they’ll be more about that but wanting to encourage people for example, let’s bring in some bike racks and have designated of bike rack parking So people if you’re you’re five miles from the event, why not ride your bike as a warm up instead of taking your vehicle and needing to park or shuttle or do whatever, and to try to as part of our messaging communication, kind of make that like a VIP kind of thing So if you’re riding your bike, we wanna have some kind of special area, some kind of special treatment, some sort of incentive for you to be doing that So we’re also working on that effort One thing that’s been brought up, and that maybe applies a little bit less for a race, but I think is good from a messaging perspective is carbon offsets So our races heavily local, it’s 99% of participants, I think come from within 60 miles So it’s not people with the exception of our elites, and we’ve talked about maybe doing something with them People are flying in from all over the country as they are for some of these marquee marathons Chicago and all of that But I’m trying to promote the idea of carbon offsets and we’ve talked about Because we do a fly a handful of elite athletes from across the country Can we can we do something that is talking about carbon offsets and just basically more of an informational campaign and saying, hey, we’re paying the carbon offsets for these elites coming in, or John Benoit, Samuelsson, who’s involved with the beach to be… 10 K Founder of that race that I mentioned in one of our elites, in 1984 when he was marathon champion, if part of our PR efforts are her saying This is as part of these green efforts, I paid my carbon offsets, and this is how I did it and all of that So we’re talking about that, we’re talking about maybe even having a bigger campaign, either this year or in future years around Well, yeah, you rode your bike to the Belen run and we’ve got this bike parking, but did you know there’s opportunities to do that kind of thing You’re around via commuting to work or doing whatever So we’ve got kind of ideas big and small I mean, one thing that there’s so much that goes into event like this,

One of our team members brought up zip ties And if we’re using so many zip ties to tie the the fencing together, well, if they’re this long did they need to be this? Could they be this long? Carly’s found some examples of a more sustainable and so we’ll go back and look at what she sent us but a more sustainable zip tie essentially When you consider all those zip ties, they get snipped and locked on the ground and in the neighborhood and they end up as waste Those are things that we can do and continue to look at I’ll talk briefly, I’m talking a lot I apologize and I’ll give you guys a chance to ask questions and have a discussion by corporate challenge giveaway when we can go to the next slide, please So again, our corporate challenge is our largest participatory program, we have almost 6,000 individuals who are primary companies who participate and again the goal as it is for…. event, is just to get feet on the street Get more people involved There are some perks that come with the corporate challenge Including race pack and deliver it to your company, as well as a little giveaway We’ve done reusable tumblers in the past We don’t want fanny packs ’cause that’s back (Laughing) and didn’t ever go It’s true And this year, it’s reusable stuff So again, we had this idea and we thought, – Well, they can’t really friend who has a strong job And is our the new challenge sponsor Well, so we’ve been a little bear. Yeah, so again – One of those losses – Yeah, well – Somebody gave it to me and I’ll never forget they’re cool – If you get one one that’s branded, you’ll remember – That’s great, branded even if it’s brand new – Yeah – I know you can bring it right on. Yeah. So yes – So we think again, this is both from a technical giveaway a little bit something different point of view and from a an awareness type of thing where the straw ban has thing hasn’t reached our area yet but obviously so many communities across the nation are doing that So we thought that would be a great way to incorporate that So real quickly I mentioned some of these, we have just kind of let you know what we’re doing Who we’re partnering with, some of the work that we’re doing around this We do have within our Belen run operations team a sustainability committee made up of various representatives who are interested in and involved with this work We’re working with John and his wonderful intern Carly with MB and that’s been great so far She’s really taking some initiative on some things and is helping us out Accountable for Responsible sport That’s out in Portland We’ve talked to those folks, they’re doing great work around this very thing and we’re discussing in future years possible certification with them Is a little bit expensive So something that we have to kind of weigh and consider and then they also have a sort of audit program while they’re they will fly somebody out To know kind of conducted a head to toe sustainability exam of your head So those are things for possible future collaboration I mentioned John Bonoit Samuelson, who is the founder of the… Beach to Beacon 10K One of our elite athletes, past champion of the Belen run and friend of Belen health as well as the event and we’ve been working with her and then we talked just today with… the green of Milwaukee Yeah, so the it’s the events in the festival and their efforts We were talking with their owner and founder and a local doctor down in Oshkosh, who’s been really dedicated his work So we’re really trying to cast this cast as wide as possible And that’s also what brings us to you folks So, obviously today our goals, not only to have me talk a lot, which I want to do, but to learn more about Your efforts as a board, answer any questions and then just discuss some of the ideas that we’ve just floated as well as possible avenues for partnership hear what you guys think and just open that dialogue for possible future collaboration – Thank you – [Julia Noordyk] Great – Kelly – [Kaurie Mihm] Yes – So much things to say (laughs) – Good, couple things that came up and talked about doing a carbon offset We, as a commission have looked at allocating we allocate it to Lambo sales tax money for certain solar installations in the city at a fire station and then like Park as well So we had also talked about what would it look like if we put up some small solar installations at that city parks to offset shelter electrical use

I’m just throwing that out there as a possibility for balance since we do have such a close tie our park and Belen neighborhood as a possibility if that’s something that I’m gonna be interested in looking into and doing maybe a project on Aster Park shelter – I think so – That’s just possibility And then also because I know we have two members here who live in the neighborhood and a couple of city staff members that are very green And we tried to restart the neighbor Association last year and one of the things we talked about was how could we be more helpful as far as like a cleanup effort for the Belen run? But if there are things that Belen is still looking for from neighbors, or that would aid some of these sustainability efforts, I think the neighborhood is pretty full of people who would want to assist So if you down the line come up or right now he has some ideas, please feel free to reach out Let us know – That’s wonderful Yeah – And we will ask her does also clay master Park too? It’s not just it’s a neutral territory – Got you – Yeah – [Julia Noordyk] Okay And so you are in the Astor neighborhood restoration group – We’re after East River So the big houses are Astor (Laughs) – More modest size houses or Astro Easter – It’s a good way to remember – [Debora Hutchison] That but that the STS rivers who we had partnered with in the last three minutes – Yeah – Okay, so there may be still some interesting and formal neighborhood associations in rocks ROM in maybe, I mean, I think thing that pops to my mind immediately is again with recycling efforts being a part of that crew So I think we’re gonna need a lot of hands on deck come race day – [Julia Noordyk] Yeah And the other one is that we talked about the bike racks, that’s getting them there is one thing but making it like a part of the event where there’s engagement, it just has could just be great job When you come back, you’re gonna get this, if we have straws leftover or whatever – Yeah – [Julia Noordyk] And having people who are excited about it would would be helpful So those are the two things that I have in mind to – [Kaurie Mihm] You could – [Debora Hutchison] Sorry – [Kaurie Mihm] Sorry – [Debora Hutchison] Try to get a bike store to donate a bike and then get people tokens for a bike raffle They ride their bike – [Julia Noordyk] That’s a great idea. Great idea – And then next year, you could recycle – [Ned Dorff] Oh (Laughs) – Suit (Laughs) – Sorry again – Oh, that’s okay Is there any thought you’re doing a fantastic job that’s really exciting, very proud that you’re doing this in our community Any thought about skipping the T shirts at all? You know, people go to four races a year and pick up a T shirt and every race and then every year they do it I mean, my husband Had you know and all the energy and resource and human power that goes into doing that – That’s a great call out we have not at this point discussed getting rid of them entirely but we are looking into recycled options so one of the giveaways of this conference we went to was a recycled texture and I think those have come a long way in our you know, even even just texture texture you know, we used to give out cotton because the texture were too expensive and those have come down in price and I think the recycled option is going to continue to come down in price too so that maybe we can can do that because that’s right That’s right That’s a huge one Some I know some races are and I don’t know that we would do this but kind of food for thought as an FYI for you somewhere offering an opt out of the T shirt So for five bucks less you can say No, I’m good I want the T shirt Because Yeah, they accumulates quickly, you know a few races a year at all Sudden you know, you may have shirts that you’re not wearing but and the recycle material it’s pretty good you know like I think our participants would dig it and but that’s that’s a really good thought something to keep in mind for for future – For an opt in for a reusable bottle instead or something with a brand – Oh yeah the have kind of a Yeah, I like that – I think the opt in things because T shirts, I mean then if your events canceled then you’re stuck with 10,000 T shirts for whatever reason I don’t know I’ve seen things but not your race but events that have been canceled for weather or whatever and then you’re stuck with it and thousand T shirts I don’t think the annual huge they’re not like T shirts (Laughs) – Fake – Yeah – Yeah – We Yeah, we gave those away And yeah, definitely something that as we survey are we our event is over Little bit different from some other events

because it for a lot of people, it’s the only running event they do here It’s they’re like, this is how I’m gonna get off the couch in the winter And then they do it and we started the title hungry series, because then they were, okay I did my thing I did my Mellon run So I feel like it’s a little bit different than other events where you have runners who do a million events But if if they can opt in or out, they can’t this year because very wonderful shirts (Laughing) – But definitely something to look at for next year – And I think that’s gonna be a key part of our efforts, especially this first year is to survey Shawn’s gonna kill us That’s always gonna be one of our operations, guys, like no more surveys, but to survey participants and whether that’s a separate survey, or however we gather that information to say Hey, what did you like? What didn’t you like? What would you like to see in the future? Would you be interested in an opt in or an opt out or switch euro? or what have you So I think that’s going to be really an important part of these efforts as well In the communication both on the front end and on the back end, say what did you think one part of our discussion, initial discussion with john which I think was really valuable was talking about making some of these changes while still maintaining the the integrity and the flavor essentially of the event? And so I think that that’s something that we’ve kind of tried to keep in mind as a guiding principle throughout all of this is it’s we still want it to look and feel like the velodrome but I think there are a lot of people, we started hearing feedback and this isn’t why we’re doing it, but we were used to being back about those plastic bags and understandably so Right So, I think as we go, that’ll be a key part of have – Another idea for the opt in or out thing Somewhere working on trail development for this You know, Parks Department and just thinking if it’s like a $5 savings or something, perhaps people would want to donate $5 towards trail development or something that would like to accommodate and use that they would be interested in – Yeah, I think that’s great. Yeah On the application, they could opt out, instead, pay the same rate But they’re amazing – 35 bucks and so do your T shirt that goes to, yeah, so it’s not only an opt out, but it’s a Yeah, I think that’s great – I mean, save this (Mumbles) – Yeah. And it probably would be something like we, you know, give a couple different options You know, maybe that’s, it’s divided up to these, we have these possibilities in terms of makes it more complicated for us, but in terms of usage if we sit give them a couple options, that – Will we relate back to them? Because we know people don’t need to say it again once it’s about me so I don’t want to give money to this if I live here but if we give them a couple options and then and it is an option they can to share it if they want it’s a great idea – And in certain things that are you know, we already are we do metals every five years, so we’re not doing a metal every year and things like that But I think next year will be a metal year so that’ll be something that we kind of try to keep in mind as we’re planning for that as well as what that what those metals look like the kids run, what can we do for those those giveaways and to try to the reasonable straw probably is not the thing I don’t think that’s gonna excite your, well – It looks like – I was gonna say Yes, that’s true – I was really that – Kids like models – Yeah – Yeah – Because it’s going directly (laughing) (Crowd chattering) – But the kids do it, honestly – I mean, I, with some, but you get to the point, but with the kids, it’s the balance between getting them excited about physical activity – Right? – So it’s there’s all there’s a very fine line that balancing where we look at what we’re what we’re doing for the environment, the environment and also what we’re doing for the health of our participants, our community – Yeah – And just trying to make those choices that I don’t think we’ll ever get rid of the kids knows what I’m saying because it gets the kids excited to be there. And that’s very important Whereas we might with adults Michael, what different stories

– Do you foresee are the kids that we love the family night? We go every year to that And I’m just wondering, do you foresee doing some kind of environmental education during that family night something for kids? – Well, in the that’s a good – You know I think we had talked about that at one point our children’s area lead is coming back from maternity leave next week So that will be definitely something to discuss with her can we within that area next year, bouncy houses and your whatever have something that’s environmental, and I think maybe Chicago their Expo has something along those lines, that’s an environmentally themed activity for the kids You know, never – And if you know of anything that’s out there that we could move, like some fun display interactive thing that we could use – Yeah – I mean, you might want to think about just tying it in with the things that you’re doing So it’s like the bike riding – Yeah – And like some of the things you picked out about, you know why you’re doing aluminum like, rather than a plastic bottle race and just so tying it just directly to the actual energies you’re doing – I think that’s a good idea And just another kind of side note about the Expo, as more of a near and far probably is to, I think I mentioned earlier to really encourage those vendors to be sustainable And we’ve had some fun ideas about can we when we’re talking to the rock, the green founder today can we have they have as part of their event, they have a cycle team that powers their stage that powers their main stage during their event I mean, how cool would something like that be on whatever scale? Yeah, within our word ceremony? – – Yeah. During the Yeah, during the award ceremony, we’ve just got, the team’s huddling away or they’re, they’re, they’re running the speakers for big mouth and what all that what all that looks Looks like so that’s definitely another area of potential, kind of tchotchkes or renders giving away And can they give another thought to what’s a piece of plastic that’s going to end up in somebody’s trash after they decided they don’t want X, Y, or Z. McCollum Anybody else? I can’t think of an example – Are you going to try to find someone to purchase the carbon offsets from and then make that available to people signing up? – Yeah, we haven’t done any research on that We just kind of got that idea last week So we’re gonna it’s – Because my guess. Like, the first question that comes to my mind is Oh, how can I do that? Right – Yeah, – Exact. So what are like? – Yeah – And I think that is something that we can build into our registration platform We would just have to figure out kind of what that looks like and how to do that But yeah, maybe it’s a matter of this year We have some sort of insert motion but with our leads and say, Hey, this is what we’re doing and Because I think it’s something that people, I don’t know. I mean, how much awareness is there among the general public that that’s even a thing? I didn’t know much about it, to be honest with you And as we’ve started to do some of this this work in this research that’s come up several times is – Yeah, – is that possibility – Now, when they said that, I don’t have any idea, but I’m thinking our race registration platform that has thousands of races, they probably have something in place, and that’s my hope – But yeah, they took that we put that in as part of our registration, but I can add that tomorrow if it’s a thing, we don’t have worry about what happened to the people are already registered But those things are, – We’re just telling – The tools on my website, if that – Yeah, right – You’re using exactly and there’s lots of opportunities with our social messaging and our Crispin communications we do weekly email blasts and things like Leading up to the event not only to talk about what we’re doing but again to solicit that feedback, those ideas to share some of those things that even if it’s not built into the registration platform this year, hey, just wanted you to know that we’re, we’re doing X, Y, Z and these are some options for doing that – Now that I understand correctly, you’re you’re looking for about unique volunteers you’re looking for – Always need more volunteers – Okay. Have you thought of addressing the Green Bay Neighborhood Association Council, where all the neighbors associations come together to discuss business and have a nice, you get a nice dinner? – Oh, is it over on Main somewhere? – Well, they got the tiger lodge now late – Okay. I know what you’re talking about – Yeah. So I mean, then you get all the neighbors associations, you address them and because the whole city. Anyway, back, you might be interested – That’s a great idea Thank you for that Yeah, we’re always looking for an R and we always get enough volunteers

But our volunteer director is usually tearing her hair out a little bit about two weeks to race day going (Mumbles) – But, yeah, I mean, I’m thinking this, if we could use four times the volunteers that we have in order to make the recycling part and the biking part really be effective So that’s, when you’re already scrambling, and it’s a dirty job So you have people who are really committed to it – Exactly, – To get their, their gloves on and getting in there. So – It’s not the glory job – It’s not like everyone wants to do the wire section Wire stations are awesome, but it’s not But it really the opportunity to make a difference (Murmur) This has been super helpful, guys, I know we’ve taken up a lot of your time already And we’ve got more meeting ahead, but we really just appreciate the opportunity to have a little FaceTime tell you what we’re doing Get some great suggestions already morphometry into my car before we go, we can connect as far as that goes and then in fact I might even be I’m sorry, I was gonna say I didn’t know card. Enough cards for everyone but I’ll take yours and knows how to get me and we know we can certainly be in touch (Murmur) – 4441 – Okay, thank you (Crowd chattering) – Thank you so much – You when you like when you wake up in the middle of night you have an idea for us Just give us a quick email because I know you will – Yeah – Cool – All right, – well, we will move on – Regular business one which is item D discussion with action on 2020 City of Green Bay sustainability commission report – Yeah. All right – So y’all that were on the commission early last year might recall, we had a similar matrix that outlined our goals That really, when they got us through 2019, I figured it was an apt opportunity to revisit them And it’s still early 2020. So this is our annual work plan I also thought that it was important to take the opportunity to kind of recenter some of our goals. You know, as we’re all aware, there are a lot of different directions that we can take sustainability in the community, which is great. But we also want to make sure that we’re maximizing our impact and being strategic So I guess what follows here really outlined some of the areas that we’ve really been working on And I guess I want to preface this by saying that Just because something isn’t here doesn’t mean we can’t take it up. The thing about environmental issues is they often arise with much urgency And that allows us an opportunity to take them on as needed. But yeah, I guess just to be transparent to Council and to the rest of the city staff here wanted to get these calls So I know some folks have gotten a chance to look at these, especially the areas they are leading on, just to make some edits because I made some assumptions here And I don’t know exactly everything that’s happening in every single area But I guess the one area that I’m fairly confident about the top one, (Laughs) so if we just want to go through it, line by line, we can make those setups as appropriate, and then have any other further discussion or changes so starting with being energy You know, we have set our goal 100% clean energy by 2050, both municipality wide and community wide That has been the goal that’s been established that was approved in our work plan by Council The mayor reiterated his support for that goal So that’s all fine and dandy The research and evidence, benchmarking of city buildings, which I think is just it’s going to be done this week So that’s pretty exciting So thank you self esteem for finding all the data from a million different departments And also thank you to the end, WCC folks who aren’t here, obviously, but who have done a lot of the heavy lifting there We have some actions that are that I think are incredibly urgent for this goal, I think number one, so we kind of have this two pronged goal And this is really isn’t anything new But we have this two pronged goal

municipal operations for clean energy usage and community at large community at large one until 2050 So let’s not focus on that one quite yet the one that we can do, and that is within our control of municipal operations, so figuring out a plan to get all of our clean energy to be 100% clean on a given timeline So we’ve talked with the folks from Johnson control cell skin and – I have and we’re following in excellent Yeah, so – I’m sorry, you in bullet, one, – bullet one in action – Yeah, – So that I mean, that will be a component of that So that’s an action that is ongoing Bullet two under actions, reducing energy usage, I believe that will also kind of be a component of something Johnson Controls could help with or we can figure out a strategy to reduce energy usage But here’s the thing if we want to have 100% clean energy for city operations, we should first reduce our energy usage sizing, that’s a really important goal We also have an idea of our solar capacity on city properties There’s loan money available for the state that we’ve been talking about for a while And this could also be part of the part of the agreement with Johnson Controls Also, I know there’s been discussion in a Randy’s brought it up a few times and other communities have started looking at ordinances for new buildings that the city constructs or renovations to happen, the energy efficient, passive solar, solar, clean energy, etc So I think that would be really cool priority And I think those three things, three, four things, I can’t count three things All of them wouldn’t be attainable by 2021 And then the rest is pretty straightforward here I would also like to drill down further This is just kind of a very high altitude thing Sure bound further with renewable energy work plan that we had last year to update that And that’s something that can happen in the next few months here Thoughts as changes, or we can go on to climate resilience – Requests as a request, maybe comment requests, I understand that You’re doing amazing stuff films like, and I was wondering for, and it sounds like, you want to tackle the community aspect later, but is there any way to just pull together maybe resources of things, so people know, could you could help residents understand what they could do today? Does that exist? Because that will – Create maybe a source like when a resident – Like the resident is interested, – Right, – Like, what do they need to know what’s available and resources to see if it’s feasible for their home? – Yeah, – Because I think that would pair especially with the people who do Without even making a plan – And as as the incentives are slowly going away, now, now’s the time to act on doing that I think that makes sense – I think that’s a good idea – You know, it was when the folks present it the person presented He was just talking about like, even stuff about like, how do you know if your roof might be a good candidate or anything on then? Yeah, I don’t like what is the first step? – I think the Clean Energy worker would be a very appropriate space for that conversation And actually, that reminds me of a program that the groups in the snack Nation of Wisconsin was running I don’t know if anybody here is a part of that But they’re basically helping folks get like solar like loans, I think through associated bank for solar. Are you really calling them? participant participant (Laughing) fancy name for – Making sure that everybody knows And give me a fancy name – Yeah, – Pretty long talk with Kevin – Okay, – This is an auction about that program And that looks good – Yeah, they won’t call me up – There’s they’re working with banks and credit unions to create a program for homeowners to do major energy efficiency projects, whether it’s solar or Windows or what have you, but that is a thing happening right now And there is there’s a short timeline on there – To come up and do it – Yeah – That would be great (Murmur) – For citizen Actually, – Let me pull up the – Sorry, – Out of the working group to do that – That’s the green and union homes fellowship – Right I mean, that’s the name of this – The official name is green and you

In the homes fellowship, so the idea is to hire union contractors to do these green efforts At residential properties – They got a whole program Most of it fell doesn’t apply to me – Because I got a bunch of trees on I can’t go solar – Oh, yeah – So it’s not just solar – Right, right. Right – But it’s also a nice insulation – It’s gonna cut down the trees – Yeah. Even even and I could share that Maybe they’ve got a spreadsheet where they if you like, power strips, they’ve got power strips now that’ll save money So, if you add other things, but they got in there – And Smart Strips, – Yeah. So anyway, you see you put in like, all these different things, and it gives you the cost and then it tabulate how much it is and how much you’ve probably saved I mean, it’s pretty cool tool. So – Is it free or reduced cost or? – Well they see it now that’s another thing is they they tell you if you say I want these Smart Strips, you can either give them your credit card and they’ll get the point because they’ve done all the research on what’s the best one or they’ll give you the information and you can do it yourself I mean, it’s fun – I mean to have someone come out here – You don’t really need well base there is energy, – There’s an energy audit, – But that’s what you probably start with – Right – And that’s- – While they would help you set that up, but they don’t have someone that comes in you would give someone – A local, – So do you think, – Coup d’etat already, figure it out (Laughs) So contact them and- – So we can get somebody to maybe come present about this program to our commission and then to your original point What if we added under action To promote clean energy and energy efficiency resources for community – Does that mean (Murmur) – He I talked to him about coming up – And if we have a website (Murmur) – Are to our notes here and I was the organizer – Okay sure fine – Put this on our website, – Yet to- – Like a tab- (Murmur) the neighborhoods that clutter that we’re working on – Yeah, – I mean, maybe I guess we’d have to wait because we need to hear this person talk before we understand ourselves But that could be a good way to reach the neighborhood’s – Cool, be great, – like the next letter or something? – Yeah, well, they right now it’s kind of the nearly speed they don’t they don’t one round in there, I think on the second one are about to go on to the second one when they’re taking candidates So I don’t know how NASA knows quite yet – Don’t be doing all this. It’s definitely something wrong – So they would add one other item on interactions – Yeah, – We were working on Climate Action Plan. So a plan action plan Excellent Do we need motions for ourselves? – We’re not gonna, – Reaction cleaner, – Every role everything accept – What’s a change when you’re taking notes – That’s going to empower you to as we move towards, basically clean energy – So it’s all energy based – It’s all energy based, – Okay? It’s not We have a category under climate resilience It’s not an action plan, as of – Now we’re really targeting is carbon reduction, reducing carbon footprint, essentially zero – That’s really tiny carpet shoes – But it’s very focused on Yeah, and Energy – Yes – Tiny carbon shoots cool – Other thoughts? Or should we move on to climate resilience? – It just made sure that I have captured I only have one thing that I’ve added – I do have one more to add partners – Oh, hold on So a complete Climate Action Plan That’s the only thing I’ve added to that – And additionally, a bullet under actions promote clean energy and energy efficiency resources for community – Promote, – Promote – Clean energy, resources for community – Clean energy and energy efficiency resources were community and then we’ll just see who we can get here at a future meeting – Okay, – Great. I would like to add partners, Seth and I and Casey Hicks presented at school board on Monday to promote a clean energy proposal similar to what we’re doing at the city level,

but we would like to partner with, they’re going to for the school district is going to form of energy task force or an energy working group And we’ve kind of invited them to join what we’re doing at the working group level So I think the school district could be considered a partner and eventually hopefully, the Brown County government would would want to establish something like that, or we could share ideas across different municipal government’s but as for right now, the Green Bay public schools district is interested Hopefully this funding sources thing will grow in the future too, but we’ll leave it at that for now – Cool Other thoughts? – Great feedback All right, move on to climate resilience I made some assumptions. So – Yeah, – I was afraid – I actually I kind of think the category should be water resources – Instead of climate resilience – Yeah. And then, and then the goal could be worked on For sure (Laughs) But like the green infrastructure plan is a thing Not a goal, really So yes, an action is an action But like, I don’t know if if the goal is something about a green infrastructure and stormwater management or something like that, I don’t know – Related to water resource management, so to reduce flooding to save water, are you thinking about? – I don’t know I just started thinking about this right now I’m open with it – Could it be water resources and climate resilience because we’re dealing with problem How to deal with some of these funding issues and resilience – But climate resilience also, though, to me is more than water I mean, there’s like urban Island heat effects and flooding on the water issue would have different kinds of you can’t be I don’t – Yeah, – Yeah. So you think Climate Resilience is good? – Well, this talks about green infrastructure, right? Isn’t that? – Sure – Water? – I agree with you. I think I agree with you – I think I agree with me too – So that can maybe it would be good if I thought about like those things in general And I’ll just give an update of where we’re at – With the actions you have developed – The green infrastructure plan should definitely be – Under Julian’s plan for stormwater batch, – which is basically the which is basically what the goal is. So just – Right, – We should come up with a – Good idea – Okay, keep a climate resilience And then under goal we’ll have something in there about the things we just mentioned, like – Managing water – Yeah, – Yeah – Yeah – I mean you are- yeah. What do you think? I mean, we got flooding We have flooding issues We got urban Island We got environmental justice issues potentially – There’s water quality – Storm water. Water Quality is a big one – Water Quality is a really big one – So water resources is pretty – Yeah, water resources is a good, in general – Resources somebody else should take, – I know, I know (Laughing) like food system, – The is almost – The Climate Action Plan is because we like it If I think when I think Climate Action Plan, it’s much more than just energy, it’s all these things that we talk about – Science is way like, it’s the broader, broad, broad water resources as a subcategory – That’s kind of what I thought, especially the way we’ve been talking about it – And I can see, I can see that two weeks category is really straightforward Climate Resilience is I want to really broad with water resources is broad, but you can, you can sub categorize it real easily But you can sub categorize it into storm water quality, storm water, volume, water management, Water Resource Management type categories So, I think water resources is probably a better water category – Is high resilience to broad Is that what you’re saying? – Yes – You’re I think you’re also starting, like if we’re, if we’re really talking about this as the whole thing as a climate, action, resilience effort, then you would have both Like, mitigation of carbon

and the resilience of dealing with an adaptation part So the both of them And so there’s things that are missing in general from those cat both of those categories, I would say Like, urban food systems Our food systems is a big category that we’ve never heard – Someone mentioned refugees I mean, that’s maybe way down the line Maybe not – What do you mean? – Somebody said refugee? – Yes – Yeah – I mean, – We are definitely well, or you can think of that as an economic development opportunity (Laughs) Because people are gonna be moving here So I mean, it’s But anyway, yeah, I don’t know. So, I guess, like green infrastructure falls under storm water and water, more easily in this context – So what I’m hearing is we should change the category of the water resources for now – I know that’s not very good – That’s fine – If anyone has a better – This can be really like Yeah – Okay, – Is it water as a resource or water as a problem, kind of, in this category known as water resource management. So whether it’s in excess for lack or a quality, it’s still bad, even water management. Water. I mean, – You could just do water – Say anything, , – I know – Rain I think water resources, good – Water resources, management – Put it all together – What do you think that water resources management? basically trying to manage the water? – Yes – And protecting the resource – Exactly – There we go – I love it (Laughing) Okay, so back to what we did last year don’t organize in terms of the actions I mean, the code audit is happening – Correct? – Correct – And then (Murmur) some of the under the research, I don’t think I have Oh, some of the things that would go under research would be the UW Madison. GIS mapping – Mm hmm – So that’s like baseline information for green infrastructure And then partners you can put on for like Michigan under there And then also UW Madison, I put it over there and see grant funding sources are so this is 2020 I really think we’re an action okay It does say like last year, develop a green infrastructure plan So that’s kind of what I was trying to start and do the up. Well, what I’ve really come I think what would be a great next step is actually it’s quite a large feet under To do a large plan like that, and complicated, and so I think it might be a good idea to maybe go out for a grant to do like a large scale green infrastructure stormwater, green infrastructure plan I mean, think they would argue There’s our new stormwater plan – plan – Yeah, it’s actually so put that in there We started doing some baseline research stuff But to take it to the next level, that is actually an operational, like plan to get us somewhere with some good targets would be helpful, but I think that’s going to take some money, and a grant. And that would be and if anyone wants and then mark is a point person, right? (Laughs) Are you a point person? – This one? – Yeah – Oh, yeah. More than one – He has said yes – On my old Yeah, – You’re technically the only other person who volunteered but we can, just go for it – He was showing up to meetings – Yeah – And then anyone else who’s interested in working on water resources There are some, – But they’ll be for everybody – So see, is there a way to project what you’re doing? Or do you want to not predict? – I guess I get your feedback for the green infrastructure plan I feel like it’s at a stage where it would need to be like taken to a higher level like maybe we get some grant funding to try to get a consultant to come to a more public we could do a public process to start doing that’s really where we could use some somebody to help coordinate that and then also do the analysis pieces to bring it all together – Is the plan they said like for city owned land if that city as a whole What does that look like? – I think the Milwaukee ones it’s the city as a whole – Well, I think,

(Mumbles) yeah, because like the Milwaukee Metropolitan sewer district has it for a region and I mean, so it’s not like they don’t know the property And so it would help us set some realistic stormwater green infrastructure goals – Or a partner, (Mumbles) – would you put the city via partner like? Like, who is who’s making the code? – You know, it has to go to the city, right? – Why isn’t the city a partner for those who isn’t? – I think it’s (Crowd chattering) – Interested? – Yeah – We are all sitting – Right – Okay – I don’t know if you want to break it down something more specific – Or they could maybe be like, point people or there’s a document like in that department – It is smash, – like, be writing rewriting code, – like what documents in what department? Would we be looking at? – Yeah, – That might be where that department comes in – Okay – I don’t know – We don’t have you don’t have a camera – You don’t have a car or like that, like they need departments – Right – or something – We should add a congress – To add more stuff – No, no, we’re not doing that – We’re not adding which city department? – No, no is a terrible idea – Resilience ordinator handle that? – Yeah – This is just a roadmap for them – Yeah – And then they can choose their own adventure – So I just find it difficult, I guess to do the stormwater management plan as a whole if you’re looking at, like I’m just thinking about, for instance, right now with a beach we’re doing an overall stormwater management plan was a piece of news for any plans for future development within the park We have a master plan and that’s flexible, and it’s a guide for what we’re doing But our hope is that by having this plan that we can implement it, and then every time we build something, we don’t have to include that as part of the project because it’s already been considered And so I’m just curious how you come up with a plan for a city when – We do so for example, go ahead finish Oh, – Yeah, just when you’re, when you’re not sure what that development is going to be And yeah, you can kind of look at what planning and zoning and that type of thing – Because you’re, I think you’re, that’s a narrower scope, potentially. So, for example, like Milwaukee Metropolitan sewerage district, they did it for their whole service area, which is 28 municipalities And they just threw out there and a half an inch water rainwater capture goal, which is 740 million gallons of water, in green infrastructure So we just we need a goal and then we have to figure out what goes into that goal and what how we get – Our water, – A lot of water – First inch rain and so but then you break it down to then you do some usability stuff We have the mapping. It’s like To me, where do you focus your energy? So is it actually on amendments are really going well, they’re and they’re really cheap Is it by like, green streets? stuff is is so is it bio retention? Is it green roofs, they all have categories of their own and potential goals and targets and stuff like that And that’s based on a lot of some analysis and crunching and figuring out, do it Am I not gonna be able to do by myself? – I’m a suggestion – I think it’s like we first need that like the goal, like what is the goal? – Like I don’t know – And honestly, I just heard their director talk and they just came out of nowhere He just thought of that as it sounded like a good number But the City of Milwaukee (Laughing) the city itself has done more advanced and they don’t suggest you just pull a number out if you want to do something that’s realistic and stuff like that – But how would we, – We can calculate that out? You know, like we could we have the mapping done so we could calculate how much in gallons we could convert them right now here – We could do – Okay, (Murmur) – I didn’t know on the test (Laughing) – What would I would mean – It would be a city wide, it would be- – A when we go about setting a goal, like – That’s exactly right So that would be a process planning process – And that’s what we need help with staff or somebody to help do – So every step probably – No, like think this is definitely a community engagement from planning process as much as it is a like data mapping and quantity issue Map exercise too Because you want to look at neighborhood we started we started looking I mean, maybe I I don’t know if we could bring the in April I think we have that grad student She can bring up our maps and we can do that here because we’ve already done some at the baseline

Analysis work and so we could share that with you and you can kind of maybe get a better idea of what I’m talking about it was like looking at she she looked at she identified like all the park, park space and then for example that’s available and did tree canopy cover So we want to do a calculation about tree canopy percentage The mayor is interested in that, like compared to maybe other cities, they can some number like 40% as a magical number or something. So what are what is our tree canopy? And if it’s not that how can we get there? – Yeah, 40% to me, we have a lot of trees and eaten – Yeah – Did we have three new windows? – Yeah Can we share it the tree city – Without ever? – Yeah, actually, ironically, the day that she was presenting on this and he was talking about I was like, do you really just cut down like 100 named trees in this park? Yesterday and he’s like, what (Laughs) goes up? emerald ash borer? Well, we should have like that would be in mind You know, that’s just Definitely, I’m sure that’s in other things too But I, so, but so – Okay, so it’s the point that the codes are just old And they’re based on rainfall events or precipitation events that are that are outdated because they happen more often they happen more frequently That’s and that – That is one small piece So the other thing is there’s just a lot of barriers potentially in codes and ordinances – So they could be outdated They could limit certain practices, not meaning to because they’re complicated, and it might refer to something that so there’s a lot of nuance and codes and ordinances there But the opportunities to actually encourage, promote or require green infrastructure and redevelopment sites So the code the person we have a consultant will be coming to talk to city staff and really dig into what the issues are with city staff feels like there’s probably internal processes that are having barriers in terms of decision making. When we go Through development phases, and site plans and stuff like that, just from, like those kind of good can be internal barriers, there can be there all sorts of like code and ordinance barriers definitely too And then there’s opportunities to improve water quality and different random areas too So the coda or results in she’ll try to gather as much input and then results in recommendations of what are the barriers and recommendations for what to how to reduce them And so if we want to think more, aggressively about what you want, that would be an opportunity to give that input and say that rather than just habit You know, there’s both you can take away the barrier You can also I don’t know, do promote a green streets ordinance or something or green alleyways ordinance or something like that, right I’m sorry. So listen, did you have anything to add? – Nope – I don’t know – So that is more complicated than when I thought about it What do you think about I just want to know, is it what do you think about going out? For grant, hopefully to do something like that So kind of like helping what you guys are doing put some actual – Number we have the console’s blessing to start pursuing grants – As an entity Yeah. You need someone to do it though – If they involve city, (Laughing) city staff or city resources, it still has to be has to go through constantly So just as a as a note for grants, I mean, probably, – I don’t know how I would have to do that And so everything that we would want to do is to go through counsel, right, because we I don’t know how you could do anything without them. I think – As long as it have all city staff for city time, city money Yeah, but the thing the things that we do have, that we asked for we got was the permission to get the ball rolling on without waiting, like, all month after we meet here, we can kind of assume that always we can get some things started in between now and console approves, there’s a – There’s a grant application pre application due April 3 That would be pretty It’s just a pre proposal So I’m just trying to get feelers out if anyone be interested in or do if I just want to throw that out there. I should be – Well, yeah, so beer last time for me before that – Oh, yeah – What is the grant? – It’s for the fun for like Michigan, they have a pre proposal that would be due April 3, I have a feeling they would be really they would be it’s just a pre proposal So we could just put it in there as a good idea for doing trying to get some more funding to try to actually do comprehensive analysis and planning process around this – And does the pre proposal mean i think that’s exciting

Are we asked for this permission? Does a pre proposal require city staff to do anything? – Well, the city staff hosting did it last time and they were like the key point person I think, like in the future, maybe the resilience coordinator would do something like this – Yeah – I although I guess saying this, though, I just want to be cognizant like that You know, what the resilience coordinator? It’s not like, we want to just, what do we want to or what are they gonna do? I don’t know – Yeah. So, I got something – Are they all? One? one gram? – Oh, just see the job description before we send it out? (Murmur) – No, do I want to fill up their calendar immediately? Yes, we do – Oh, okay – I think I think – We should, like- – We could say, as a commission that we’d be okay with you working on as long as the mayor’s office – Did the pre proposal have to go through council first? – – No – Okay – No, – Because you’re not committing yourself? – No, you’re not – Funding our staff time for pre proposal – Now that my spring breaks totally canceled – Yeah (Laughing) But I don’t know, I just I just opened up more, potentially I don’t know, I see an opportunity. So, but I, you don’t get it unless you ask – Sure – Right – Right Mark DC, they’re very happy. So (Mumbles) – No, no, not – That’s very nice – Yeah – Cool. So are you volunteering to do the pre proposal then by April? – I think I would like to talk to more about that, – which we do offline (Mumbles) – Mm hmm. Yes Do we need some changes or additions to this document – Regarding that, so this one I have, I have watched resource management Sorry, I can’t for some reason it won’t let me – You’re on a different screen – No, I did it when I was doing the PowerPoint – It’s good That’s because my screens over here and your screens over here as far as its concerned, it’s a virtual screens – I’ve done that before (Murmur) – It’s a real screenshot from screen, – Though, but the other ones are virtual screen – Alright. Anyway, moving out here – So water resource management was reserved, I’m sorry, researcher evidence UW Madison GIS mapping then added to the actions are green infrastructure plan – Well, it does say develop a green infrastructure climate resilience plan for storm forest – Yeah, so – I think that’s, – Okay, – Are we having structure plan and- – I think I keep on trying to – Yeah, – Took that out – Yeah – Yeah took that out – Yeah I took that out – And maybe, maybe I can come back to it – Sure – Is the goal to manage water resources? – Right now, right now, tonight? (Laughing) – Yeah, exactly Can I just get – Yeah, yeah – And then I don’t have a partner UW Madison, – And fun for Lake Michigan – No, then funding sources – So she said that for a partner, though, when she listed partner – With funds like Michigan as a partner – Sure, as a funding source – As a funding source – There’s the same and one in the same to me sometimes – Yeah – Honestly. Okay, I’ll or whatever you were saying – I was participating in project itself – Yeah. Roger springsource – Whereas there’s findings – Yeah – Okay. And then Julia and mark and an additional documents I don’t have any target date – What is the target date? – I don’t have one – You got to say that when do you think we should have our – 2120 – Green infrastructure? – Yes, you can sleep on it – Yeah It can be specific, the target would be specific to one of the actions as opposed to the – I guess, and I’m sorry to transcribe this whole thing, but just like, does this I just want to make sure though, that whatever we try to go forward isn’t overlapping or like there’s gonna be multiple that – At this point, don’t worry doesn’t matter – All right – I think some of it was always – Like the comp plan Like, that’s what I’m in my head – What it does for me, speaking for plantings – Yeah – Kind of standpoint, all it does is reinforce, if you have goals that overlap, all that does is reinforce each other They’re forcing the priorities of some of the other goals So if even if two goals that overlap in some portion, all we’re doing is reinforcing the fact that they’re good goals So yeah, I wouldn’t worry about that part of this – Beautiful it’s like goals hugging – It’s like – It’s beautiful

– Lesson go. Well, (Laughing) – I was going there – I feel inspired – So Steve’s like I know (laughing) – What is traditional – That was him – Like we have the renewable energy work plan that we had from last time So if there’s anything specific that’s come out of like this condition or anything, so it can be NA – NA – Yeah. Cool – Awesome Thank you – Oh, no, we can do some of the maps – That what? – Additional documents, maps – Maps, okay – Maps I can share – Okay (Murmur) – Great bounce – Thank you – All right – Actually, can we add another thing to research and evidence under clean energy? – Uh huh – That would be the Wisconsin clean energy toolkit – Go for moves, which will be happy someday in the future (murmuring) (laughing) – Is that Is there a PDF of that? – Yeah – You just send that to me – Yeah, I can – Zoom in that way I can pop it in here – Oh (Murmurs) – Cool Now we can move on to – Waste reduction – Waste reduction All right – Waste reduction And I did I did my homework – Yeah – Yeah – Late last night did – Julian and – [Julian Noordyk ] You just do that – I know but that’s (Laughing) – That’s actually what I sent him because I didn’t get anything boy – What? (laughing) – Doesn’t matter if it’s a week or five minutes ahead – Alright, so under these old – Toys production covers a lot of ground obviously the goal at this point, I think it’s achievable We can work towards actually reducing the amount of food waste that’s being planned That’s actually – Do you want me to take out develop and launch a curbside? – That’s actually going to shift our action – Okay, got it. All right – That would be an action – And then you said reduce food waste – Reduce the amount of food waste in landfill – Nice – And research pilot presented by what here? – Oh, whoops (laughs) – Well, okay, so smart 22% of material going into landfill is food waste So we’re trying to, to eliminate a portion of it, but right now – We have 100% – But it’s not going to have – What’s realistic – Realistic – And the most aggressive – I would have to give better sense of what and I don’t have the numbers that looked at recently because there’s residential food waste, there’s post consumer waste, there’s commercial food waste, and so there there are a variety things but basically out of in Brown County, we’re landfilling to 180,000 tons of material a year and almost a quarter of that is food of some kind or another So it’s a matter of what can be achieved So under the research or evidence across Madison, Milwaukee Stevens Point all have programs right now that they’re working on at some stage of development We’ve been talking a lot in the last week or so They just send out an RFP for food waste collection services Request for source separate organics collections and processing service Marky just sent this – Question mark – Yes, man – Do you want to say – Looks like this with a – question I was gonna say (laughs) – I want to say food waste or do you want to say organics, so like, for instance, for paper towels or recyclable Earl compost and – Food and food (murmuring) – Like to be included, to be fun – From our own program – Yeah – I can’t just say organics because people say we literally had people in our program participate who said, Well, I couldn’t find enough organic material that I bought at the store today to recycle because they’re organic (Crowd murmuring) – So food waste We want to make sure at some point it has to be separated from yard waste I mean, we all recite yard waste program. program – Yeah (Crowd murmuring) – It’s not groups It’s it’s interval groups I mean, bay doesn’t do it They do it twice a year, man right here and we have drop off sites and those are different And then 2021 would be a target date to get this get the pilot launch Craigslist in bands There are a couple potential funding sources

including the recycling partnership and an organization called reef Ed RDF Ed They are both It’s like the partnership gives out carp grants They’ve actually belly Valley Fox River Valley Did You know apples are out again the county got a grant from them to do curbside recycling carts, they they pay cards for whole that area, which was great And one of their main job market we used to run Allegheny County’s Merck is now one of their VPS of outreach and education, stuff like that So we got to tie it So there’s a there’s a lot of stuff out there That’s and I have somebody working on this exact program right now So that’s even better We’re looking at a program for parole So I think this is hopefully pretty achievable To talk to john a little bit about potential other research in my class to see for me it’s frustrating because I’m accounting we don’t do any collection at all So I have these ideas about needing to do things and actions we collect we were receiver Do you guys to talk to pretty exciting stuff (Laughing) Great, thank you Anybody that would definitely a point person apartment You’re really struggling for some couples I see that article I saw – Yeah – The biggest challenge is finding (Murmur) what is programming having they can’t quit? They can’t. They don’t have enough and Places that the company that the work of the capitalist Crusader, and then there’s another one that actually didn’t work with don’t have enough capacity to take a walk, he has like seven 800 households that they’re working with That’s more than that overwhelms them in terms of being able to manage that, – Or they should come to a small community – Well, we’re still our our 250 people who are participating is more than anybody around here can handle probably because we’re talking now last year we did 32,000 pounds and drop off so that’s what of that 17 tons That’s a lot of stuff when they have to end up doing is they can’t compost in wintertime, because Johnny had that problem here – [John Arendt] Right, – Your rocket digester composter – [John Arendt] Yeah, institution Wisconsin – Winters are too cold – [Julia Noordk] After the presentation There was a woman on the radio there’s a whole story about this farm up north appear – We contacted her – [Julia Noordyk] Okay, – Farmer Donna – Yeah – It’s a great idea But you know, right now, – We’re working with Santa Max and UW Oshkosh and taking stuff down to there And that’s, that’s a viable solution They actually can take it But it’s not a long term solution, because it’s 60 miles away She’s encrypted It’s the same problem She’s 60 miles away You know, it’s so we’re trying to find somebody local Claire Thompson, who’s the director of the armory, and she has a firearm, but she’s not alone Okay, that’s not so bad That’s closer to 30 miles There there are. We’ve been trying to reach out to some of the organic farmers, some of the farmers in this area to see if there’s something we’ll be able to take out There’s gonna be a big digester built across the street from the landfill we’re building and the dynamic energy is going to go up And Tom writes down next couple of years, whether they have capacity to take some of this stuff or not, I don’t know if that’s that’s actually the biggest issue with this – If you’re going to be building it, now’s the time to get a hold him and say hey, he made- – Well, it’s not it’s the technology involved there I look I cannot look at john because Johnson you’re more on the technology side I think that I am you’ve done more research on this – [John Arendt] Papers, papers They present the details of their plan but – But I think they’re liquid more – [John Arendt] They’re really catering to the farmers piping in the newer gas can be their feedstock – Not, not solids, – [John Arendt] Right? – You know, Oshkosh is nice because it’s basically, – Yeah (Laughs) It’s a basically a big indoor compost facility that handles dry, they call it dry digester That’s what it does It just takes a couple sips for 28 days and then they cycle through – It’s the only one like, it’s I think it’s still the only one in North America – And I think that’s true – Well, it’s true – Who is joining us sustainability commission – Whereas for festival foods

and they have all this compost around the state, – And he said that, speaking for him, that they have gotten a few farmers to come and pick up stuff at sites, and really gung ho about it and it’s working well until they can’t make it The weather’s bad or, whatever happens in there, they sit with this pile of stuff ready to go And so it has to be something that’s – Consistent – The city has to be involved or, still you could get the private in the city working together to get this done, something that helped the farmers when in the weather’s bad or, I don’t know, some kind of insurance or something So to make it work to help it – The program right now that I know that that’s working pretty well on a consistent basis is Stevens Point, and rising sands organics is a farm, an organic farm over there Kelly Abington so recent graduates are ABC this coin And she Pardo is part owner of that but they basically bought a panel van and go around and pick up kind of like farmer Donna does, but they’re right in and they’ve been on a subscription basis within Stevens Point So they’re right there and they’re able to use that But there’s there’s small and I talked to her last week about this Trying to ramp it up to a whole city It’s hard That’s what foods is working with Hill topper refuse in lacrosse, and Hilltoppers private company holler And that’s that’s where they’re working on subscription service as well for curbside collection So it’s not the city of a process doing it It’s actually Hilltoppers that’s doing it and in Alaska in that area, so there’s some challenges on that end, but if he is find a way to spread the wealth around who wants to win Number of farmers if you can prove that the material is the hardest part that we heard from Oshkosh And the reason we had to drop all compostable plastics, is because they don’t they’d rather not actually have our residential material at all, because there’s so much contamination in it Too many plastics And that’s Madison’s on its third pilot program Because the first one was complete boss because they just had way too many plastic second one wasn’t too bad The third one, they’re kind of holding off at the moment until they do a really thorough round of education and people are participating, but it’s a voluntary The limiting the number of people – People find plastic in that – Oh, yeah – Oh, boy – Yeah, – That’s a problem here to hire people to go through- – It for a poster – Yeah – Plastic things are just ubiquitous – Yeah, – Any garbage person I ever put – Your hand I might do something wrong (Mumbles) – Doctoring plastic Yeah, that’s good – No, you’re doing it right – You put plastic and I was getting wasted – Well, even the compostable plastic is no longer – Right? Right You can’t do it Yeah, we printed the paper big – Well, and now with, (Mumbles) like me (Murmur) You know, even fast food papers are subject They’re organic farmers who won’t take a lot of waste right now because if they’re, they won’t be certified organic They can’t take any any kind of hamburger wrappers, which are paper, but they’re coated with PFS anything that doesn’t fit paper to determine the material doesn’t soak through popcorn bags, pizza boxes, all that PFS on And there (Murmur) prevent them from being certified organic, and so they won’t take a lot of consumer waste either because of that problem, until we resolve that problem There may not be a little bit longer – So nonetheless, we got to start someplace and this is I think It’s a fairly straightforward process at some point to get this involved – You’re looking at like, I know like some grocery stores and the food’s expired or whatever having like, homeless people were shocked or people who feed – Patrons – Thank you Yes, you know reusing that phone instead of it going in the trash I think programs like that available – Oh, what’s it called? – Feeding America – Feeding America is one of the biggest ones in state actually They’re all there. They do (Murmur) things – Think, (Murmur) – Of taking that food from the grocery stores (Mumbles) – Yeah, there’s actually a good samaritan law – Yeah (Crowd chattering) – No – Know for All right. Cool

– Should we round it back up here? – And yeah, actually talking about pizza (Laughing) – I do wonder, we talked about it last time with the waste management discussion on a grand scale, right? on a grand scale The thing that would change everything would be some kind of a cradle to cradle legislation. Right – Yeah – And that’s like a federal, but we can make recommendations to the state, so on and so on Could that be something that we put in our actions is to develop a model Cradle to Cradle resolution? – Extended producer responsibility? There’s lots of examples of countries Some states have them state by state So yeah, there are definitely models we could pull together and start advocating. So that is not some of these you want to get away. You can do it too industry specific In other words if you make your battery manufacturer you have to take responsibility or you can do it broadly and say if you are making exercise product – So put instead of saying you need – To create all them put it together extended wide again – Extended producer responsibility EPR – Responsibility – Look at British Columbia, they’re probably the best example in North America Of course – Okay – So it’s like the law for tires we pay it the recycled tire or, or the best one is carpenters pants – Yes – I saw a statistic the other day 99% – 99 I would say then 95 but – It’s out there 27 waste study and as I said 99% of – What he’s doing – Is assembled in a recycled plastic Recycle lab, they do the acids and they drain it and reuse the acid probably lives – Reduce the need to mine for new lead, because they’re recycling so much. I mean, that’s huge success – Yeah, we can recycle (Mumbles) There is an absolute I was amazed that very little of bauxite mining There’s basically worlds out there – So would you say the British Columbia EPR law would be researcher evidence? – Yes – Do you think we should be realistic about the legislature we do have right now and recommending bills that might not be? – This is legislation that passed the Wisconsin e waste law – Do you think that, – Yeah leads us to want to require that bans electronics from being put in liability – Oh manufacturers to sell If it’s best to set a target goal for recovery based on their sales, so if you sell 100,000 pounds of TVs you have to collect a comparable amount or pay for recycling for comfortable So there’s never say never – Yeah, – If you don’t start somewhere, – I’m working. I’ve got a draft paint recycling legislation – That we’re trying to find some sponsorship for That will require all paint sold and students concept to have between a quarter and $2 depending on the size of the container that would be required to be recycled You can take basically a buy it and take it back to the positive Yeah, it’s kind of deposit and then it goes to recycling There’s a couple companies that do a recycling effectively So I just really want to be careful about like when we did the pH resolution asking them like pass that resolution like If that was a feasible thing that’s going to get voted down And like if this is a feasible thing that could happen I’m all for that But I think just like I see some city governments, elsewhere in the state that are just constantly passing resolutions, asking higher bodies to take action And I don’t think that’s a really good use of our time I think things like developing a curbside program are things that we have power over and that we can spend our time doing, and just like feel good, like you guys should do this recommendations that aren’t actually rooted in, potential action we should be cautious of, because otherwise, we’ll just spend time working on the pain management legislation has formed from industry Cool. So the American coatings Association has actually drafted the legislation and passed it in both Minnesota, Illinois and Illinois And, I mean, locally, there’s, like 12 States National would pass this legislation And so they’re supporting it The Association of cycles of Wisconsin

is drafted an extra draft, but it is so dead There’s so there’s pretty broad support that way It’s and right now We’re trying to build support from Wisconsin manufacturers Okay, you get their seal of approval, then we can move forward – So Oh, that’s great I think that might be more of a long term thing, just given the legislative calendar this year, the last sentence or day before our next commission meeting, and then they probably won’t meet until after the elections in January. So (Mumbles) – Yeah – Yeah. yeah – All right Cool. Anything else to add to the school’s Mark? (Mumbles) Awesome. Any other thoughts? – Folks, bring back to the logical restoration – Cool, – Isn’t that have some edits there? – Three theological restoration with the goal Possible goal it can be included there would be to use public land to restore ecological communities support sustainable urban agriculture, filter water entering our waterways and support healthy recreation for a population – Last two parts – So it was using a co plan to restore ecological communities support sustainable urban agriculture, filter water entering our waterways and support healthier creation for our population – Okay – Okay data communication and for is for know for me when we meet we did actually talk about that at the pollinator quarter meeting last week And then I shared some of the ordinance stuff that we worked on 10 years ago on heights and it’s already go to nine inches. So it’s pretty liberal ordinances, those – Nine inches (Laughs) tall for me, – As far as (Mumbles) as far as the lawn can grow, – You’re okay – Now you can, – Give a what about like native grasses – That’s also addressed in the artists that we are Oh, yeah, – Okay – You can grow you can do your whole yard in the native grasses absolutely anything except for between the sidewalk industry That still has to be turf grass – Yeah – But it’s my understanding that the plants have to be below three feet in height is the city of Green Bay? I’ve been told and I haven’t found out that our ordinance says that If you have what they call a native planting, I believe that you have to get like a certificate or certified or something along those lines in order to have one that – You can voluntarily register We’ve set it up that way – Okay – You could volunteer it Nobody has I don’t think but you can have native landscaping Like I said, it can be it can be as high as you want it I mean, the most native plants that you can grow, or pollinators are going to be taller than three feet – So let’s be really clear about what part of the yard we’re talking about – Front and back – Not the terrorists, – Right? – So, – Terrorists, – You can have plants that are taller than three feet Part of the bed No mo may is really about a lawn area – Right? – Yep – And of course, that’s turf grass, which – Really, – I’m not sure if it’s a tragedy pollinators, – Right. It would be more of the early blooming flowers like dandelions that would provide some kind of nutrition for the early emergent bees That would pretty much be in your ear kind of in flowers that grow in a turf lawn – Okay, so now – That’s the point of normal, – Right? – Yeah, (Murmur) is to get those those early emerging views – And Cory Booker talking about his lawn area Plants need to be shorter than three feet – High. I’ve been told (Laughs) (Mumbles) myself from the ordinance No, it’s a different part of the city ordinance, – Okay – Apparently which states, – That to like a nuisance ordinance

– Yeah, I know it came about because there was an issue going on in the city with homeowners property, – There was a lawsuit – Okay. And so that’s when I was told about this three feet rule which again, I haven’t found for myself – Yeah, we’d never set a height limit – Or so the lawsuit was after your work – Yeah, – Lawsuit happened, but in less and more year – It certainly is still – Okay. Was it was it was it in the terrorists? – No, – No – So these are yard, – It’s just, this is going to be brought up and (Laughs) so we can investigate it more fully – Yeah – Well, – The issue – Yes. Thank you. That’s (Laughing) about it – But yeah, I don’t know I don’t believe our ordinance has been replaced I I just looked it up again last week So, – I agree. And but it could be in part of another code He says something different – Yeah – Yeah, – Exactly – And that’s – Not exactly a good example of the code I write – Right – Okay So yeah, definitely something to look into see if there’s like the one because then a lot of us will be ran that code but still mean So as far as the second column and researcher evidence for the ecological restoration I think we would be looking for mapping data from the city parks department – So, yeah, there’s definitely some I feel like there for this world that there is like, an amazing amount of information potentially because you have some very, that your goal was like incorporating several things But I was trying to do some mapping in that green infrastructure planning effort to do the pollinator stuff too. So – Yeah, – Definitely try to actually make that happen – Cross pollinate that work – Yes (Mumbles) – Yeah. So I’ve been trying to figure I’ve been trying to make that connection consistently I’m not doing very well, so far so We should maybe we should talk about that And also, we’re this area’s designated for a pollution hotspot area, basically It’s called an area of concern And they it’s one of 43 in the Great Lakes. Yep – The EPA – It’s a no it’s a international Joint Commission designation, that’s an international binational agreement. That is a really big problem area (Laughs) – Area specifically, – It’s called an area of concern where it’s from the pier dam, all the way to point Savile and across the bay from long tail point and it’s up (Mumbles) Okay, so the coordinator who’s helping try to do all the restoration for this area would love to come and talk to this group And they also have just completed a wildlife habitat and habitat assessment and project list for it There’s a lot of in water projects, but there goes a kilometer from the shoreline in order to so that is a huge resource for you I can like send you the project ideas, like the mapping goes way beyond – Yeah, – You’re gonna like, – Huh, yeah. That’s great – She’s been trying to get on this agenda for a while actually. So, but she – Writes very nasty (Laughing) I don’t know she hasn’t reached out to control everybody (Mumbles) She’s from the DNR – So you might have had, you might have gotten emails from her, – It might have had a lot of jargon in it – If you search the term AOC, you might find her – Congresswoman from her to see you – Yeah, you’ll see (Crowd chattering) – The Wisconsin DNR AFC means a very different game (Laughing) – I nearly, – Yeah so our focus areas designated since 1987 This issue and it has to do with the PCBs and the degradation, wildlife and habitat degradation, and eutrophication, so all the sediment and nutrients in the algae boom So it’s a there’s a lot of people working on this stuff, some of the ecological components that you talked about. – Excellent – And then I would just wish to connect more on the mapping – Yeah, – Because I think there’s a transmission There was a study done by the transmission company in this area looking at pollinator port or habitat, use,

– It is, – So, yeah, we do we have that report that’s like – Somebody on the quarter, I think has worked with them on some of that So ask, – So giving that as a resource would be, I think critical – Thank you – There’s also I was gonna ask about stormwater data So I think, – But what? So that’s in – The water resources management category. So – As far as how and I think this goes into green infrastructure as well, how does some of this is going to support both right so creating green infrastructure could support pollinators and support restoration support the water goals – should we should try to maybe have partners and I added to your point people then maybe – I think we should – I think I should (Murmur) – I think you should Corey tech as you were – Yeah – So Julia the point people, – So I only have one – The one goal is pretty – Action sorry, one action, – The one action normal may resolution to improve pollinators I would also put, and we’ll talk about this in a few minutes joining national efforts to access resources and best practices For example, the be city thing from Xerxes zuri seeds at one time (Mumbles) – That actual thing could be to them, like getting your inventory of existing and currently connected – Yeah, I seen some there Bobby sent me about your map – Yeah, – But it also has to do with parks – Right Taking inventories definitely absolutely should be should be one of the goals by the end of the year Getting that, – One of the action – Sorry, One of the actions Yeah, getting that done by the end – But you’ve also talked about (Murmur) – Taking an inventory of actual sites – On major sites? – Right? – Well, – I need her sites, – Right? Yes, sir – What’s brenly? – Not like? – Habitat? – Community garden site? – Or like, – What is the inventory? Yeah – I was thinking more along the lines of the pollinator quarter for Yes pollinator landscaping – And are we looking at public land private? – Oh, – Sweet. Yeah. I should just know you got some ideas? (Mumbles) – Yeah, we have We could potentially have a graduate student come to build something and then have students go around and actually kind of do this for green infrastructure So but, um, so pollinator habitat could be part of like a GIS collector And so the summer to go around to actually start the inventory And then we would need, we’d love to have like, Were a website So a map that we could actually that would be made public, and then it would be a baseline for all the projects in the future too. So yeah – That’s a great – Thank you – As far as actions we would also want to look at and possibly recommend action or ordinances regarding the use of pesticides on public lands within the city limits – Just, – Start their (Murmur) – I don’t think you can, property – I’m not sure how much, (Murmur) – I think it’s best to – Not tell my neighbor not to put stuff on – if it is, we could research whether it’s a public health concern – Yeah – Or not, – No – Because if it is – If it’s a public health concern, – Yeah, – Then yes – Right – Yeah – I think starting public is awesome. School, – Schools, firewalls, county, land, city land, anything that is public land – Yeah – That our citizens are using – And then setting, setting goals for completing the pollinator corridor, which originally we had intended to have no gaps of half a mile or more between areas Completing that corridor – Having, yeah – Having to be in between the gaps – Of the corridor from UW Green Bay to NW TC – Sorry for the whole city, – Anywhere within the city – Okay – Yeah – Yeah – It’s throughout the city But yeah, that’s kind of like the eastern Western province, right (Coughs) You know, VGB and

The VTC – Two tracking just pesticides, herbicides – And herbicides, any kind of herbicide, fungicide, any kind of chemical, any kind of cosmetic chemical use – Some fertilizers Okay, so I know and Bear Creek to mitigate them basis – Right. And I’m not talking about ecological restaurant I think that would be the exception, – Okay – Yeah, If there’s a public health concern that you have to use some kind of chemical or some thing, or if there is an ecological restoration, use for targeted spot spraying, but that’s different than the cosmetic use of chemicals – Fertilizers, compost, – There you go – There’s the use – Depends on the fertilizer, what you’re using it for, and if there’s a need for over fertilizing those types of things (Laughing) – Getting ready to compost, let them over fertilize – And then let’s see looking toward the next column, the partners We have the pollinator corridor Working Group That’s fine And funding sources We the working group is going to start seeking donations – Oh, you have so many funding options – And grants. I mean, there are grants and, – Yeah – Can I see what I’m getting? – Okay, – Just getting hungry – And I did I had started up a grant documents for us, so – That’s true – I don’t know if we can have more of I know there’s this chart but it would be nice to be able to because some grants are going to overlap with different category So, and then I just put on like the deadlines and the description and what would be needed – Just nicer than that to locate – Okay, so we could build on that because my point, – No – Because then it because it gives the I just put on there some of the key things like dates and whether it needs match or stuff and stuff like that So we’d be like, Oh, it’s this time of year and the deadline is gonna be in a few months (Crowd chattering) – Just like maybe sponsorship like sponsoring a garden adaptive garden or something like that where people could, (Murmur) whatever – You start with a year and if it grows on you, – Great – Yeah, you are – At the end column for documents – I put we have some original like documents from the when we set up a pollinator quarter project What other documents we we have right now? Just some background on – The date – Swanee. Oh – The target date – I’m sorry. Okay. The target date – Actions build Time Machine (Laughing) – 2024 for most of this – Is here – Yeah, most of us can be done this year I think completing projects might be preset up to 2025 Actually just doing some of this mapping and possible ordinance writing or prep work for that can be done this year (Clear throat) – Anything else, restoration piece – Here community garbage that you have some thoughts on? – Yeah (Murmur) – Okay, so instead of engaged people, let me Can I just start at the top of some bullets And then if any of this is listed we can keep that but promoting sustainability goals And then above that, I guess I would put introducing Green Bay sustainability commission to public Consider Public Service Commission – Sustainability Commission’s data sustainability

– Sustainability goals and then networking, – Brainstorming ideas, – Building community, and then an addition this could also be the neighborhood outreach that we had talked about and this could also be another good because it’s not really happening yet but, – Maybe an action like something you’re planning on doing – Yeah. Okay – Yeah – And a monthly coffee conversations, – Coming up this Monday, right – Yeah – Yeah – As a, – As an actor as a, As a goal or an action – Be more of an action when Yeah – Yeah, I’m not sure what, whatever column it was in actions – Yeah – And then – I don’t know, – I love your input on this – I was meeting with, occasionally business people in the area And it was really interesting And like Santa Max and Trevor, I would love to continue doing that if you think it’s useful I don’t know how, what if it’s a useful way of using our time, – To be useful – I loved it, but (Laughing) – I think it generates talking about these in real life terms, talking about these goals and sustainability We need to be doing things that our company and here’s what we are doing, engage – A couple extra, these are are not smart South Bay Marina is doing great things He fell the McDonald industries but South Bay Marina stringer I just met with them and they’re, I mean they’re a certified clean Marina They’re reducing trying to get rid of all their plastic and converting other stuff and and then we also have a local company they just taught me about called marine dynamics and they actually designed pond skimmers to take out plastic out of the water so they test these devices at South Bay Marina South Bay’s getting three of them and they basically act like a pool filter where it sucks in water and then they can take up the plastic and take it out of the marina area But they also develop like boat sized ones and they’re all over the country and this is based right here – That’s the size small plastic we talking about – Well like plastic bottles and debris and stuff – Okay, so, – It’s for like, actually, I agree (Murmur) – I don’t know if the parks if you’re gonna apply for that grant for I don’t know where are you working with them – We did but net for in water cleaning is more the shoreline so like the beach, beach room equipment – Basically have a water one you can go through and like collect oh I was like this that’s a really like a water base like you know problem solving industry company right here so I wonder if it would be neat to like have a resource where people could share their information but like somebody is managing it like even things for the Belen run if somebody was interested in wanting to learn more about another company or organization to event could be more green maybe, – Your danka has sustained Dane and like so it was put that sticker on there (Murmur) on there. I don’t know if that’s something we want, – To think about the coffee talk is sort of generating figuring out what coming together and they are talking about waste issues and Shrike Schreiber group was there and sandbags is coming and All kinds of people talking about their issues at work, but – Most of label maker, – They have some co workers there – So that and we’re organizing and also Cody is a point person – Oh, yes. So – So I don’t know how big it’s gonna cover, but it is big – It’s been on little terms – What about like recognition – Or like sharing the information that you’re learning? You know what I know, I like having it a place where all that information comes together and – Compiling this information when, – You’re talking to these companies, – Taking notes, and then so there’s an invitation that goes out once a month – Yeah, and taking notes on what was discussed – And I guess we thought, I don’t want to speak to john but it would be kind of a more organic thing rather than top down

Rather than telling them what we want telling them about article, I mean, they know about our goals, but where they can network and work together, – Right – And come up with solutions and share solutions Not so much the sustainability commission is giving them information, but providing a platform for them to share information and take it from there – Yeah, and I think that information that’s shared could be compiled in some ways for people to access, and – Then be shared with a lot of other community or any other business – Right? It’s pretty late – Resource – Yeah, it’s not real, a lot of heavy information coming through just yet – But even like the talk, just today, on the spelling writing, if somebody could just take those bullet points and say, Well, this is what they’re aiming for, even if it’s not achieved or whatever, just to kind of get those ideas – While I say you’re saying okay, – So yeah, – Yeah – Because – So, yeah, spreadsheet or something? I mean, are we sharing? That’s, – I think our nurses sustainability, one page, we could probably have resources for business – Sharing those resources – Yeah, I don’t know – I mean, it’s extra work for somebody to have to input that information – But yeah, it’s bullet points – Yeah. It could be awesome – This is what we’re doing – This is our contact information if you’d like more information – Yes, – I’m so – Okay. Because maybe they’re like, – Oh, we found aluminum water bottles – Right That was how they found that out It was this discussion at the coffee talk with Green Bay Botanical Garden sharing that they were doing that so that that was that was the conduit for them – Mm hmm – Is it a conduit or a sluice? (Murmur) – To date and current dinner, – Dates, yeah (Murmur) – Okay, ongoing infinity – And beyond (Murmur) – Okay – All right (Murmur) – So the next coffee talk is Monday – 745 – 737 30 – Cool – Cool – All right – Well, any other thoughts on this document as a whole? (Mumbles) – I’m sorry – Just one real quick – Sure about a pilot green infrastructure pilot project – Yeah – Oh, yeah – That’d be great. It’s awesome – In the Water Resources Management action box (Mumbles) – Cool – And then I guess, like the major significance, (Laughing) from last time – Something – We did eliminate I just took the liberty of eliminating the sustainable transportation options We didn’t really do anything last year on that, and we don’t want to over commit ourselves And then we did have a discussion about the comprehensive planning and stuff too, but I just don’t know where that is at and if there’s a meaningful way to, to plug in, so I don’t think we need coals around that at the moment – Yeah, I would say, I would say So some of the people who are involved in the conference plan attended the community scoping workshop for green infrastructure And I think that that team is, putting sustainability in the conference plan to take And slightly different approach to constructing it So it’s by neighborhood sort of by category – Cool – So that’s awesome – Yeah So I would just say, let’s just leave that aside And if you want to check back then just put it on the agenda item for an update – Cool summer – Wonderful – Great – Thank you – Yes. Sure – Move to adopt as amended – There’s a motion to – Second – A second, Ned, and Randy All those in favor say aye (Crowd cheering) – Have one more victim very sweet – All right – All right. Motion by Ned seconded by Randy All those in favor say aye. Aye All those opposed

All right. 2020 plan adopted (Murmur) All right, cool – Plan – Was that, – That was really a great tip (Murmur) – Okay – Sometimes folks, thanks (Murmur) Cool. All right, moving on to our next item Moving on to our next item then field trip – Field trip – So um, possible dates for us to take a tour of new water Of course, this I got this and did this before There were some social distancing moves by entities in our community I have no idea you want is one of those entities that’s going to do social distancing and thus cancel their? – Oh, – I have no idea – Oh, her okay – So, um, what I’d like to do I wanted to put this on the agenda I think, probably the easiest way to handle this is for me to just email you see if you want to contact me, generally, are people interested in doing a tour? Jasmine waters? – Would it be at their new the new part of their stuff? – I think I – Probably, – Probably – Yeah, I think they probably – Are, too. Yes. So – Yeah. So I would just say the motion I would look for is just for us to take. Necessary – Precaution – I would say, let’s table this into the next mean – Okay – Well, but that would be after they’ll be after this timeframe, but that’s, – Yeah, that’s right I’m not sure where they are – Just hold for the next meeting call for the next Emotional motion to hold by Randy. Second – Second All those in favor, – Aye – All those opposed? – All right, – Hold this Give me one second – Just to hold that is really interesting – I mean, I was no fun – Although like they are getting better, – And are getting better – Things are in the core item three men take it away. 300 – Yes. Sorry, (Murmur) Joshua Understand understanding the BB, – Yeah the B city This was brought to my attention last week by one of the folks at the pollinator corridor Working Group B city is a program, kind of like tree city bird city, that we’ve become part partners with to recognize efforts that the city’s taken to support pollinator habitat And it has some requirements in it So in your packet, the talks about what we would commit to doing as a city so I’ll start there, I guess Taking on the commitment of being assigned, or assigning obesity us a committee, I think that would fold right into the higher – Order working group, – The obesity USA committee, planning some kind of pollinator event, at least once a year like a garden walk Which several people who attend to that working group work on planning garden walk, so that should be no problem Reports kind of provide a report the actions that we’ve done as a city over the course of the year And then whether that be like installing a new garden in a park or doing the mapping project or whatever it might be, by reporting the work of what we’ve done, and then the pollinator quarter working group would raise the funds to support being part of obesity, which is I that’s a significant amount of money I think it’s $500 to apply to become obesity and be recognized for that $500 Obesity says that you have access to webinars and other educational resources

On – An annual, – An annual fee (Murmur) Yeah. So – So when we talk about free information, – Yeah, we talked as a group and it might be a we don’t see a benefit of doing a second year then we will, – How much is – $500? – I believe it I think it’s, I don’t know if that’s an annual, if it’s $500 every year, but at least for the initial one And, it’s through the xerces Society, which is a pretty well established group that has been doing years and years worth of work in promoting pollinators, butterflies and bees, things like that So if we think the notoriety of being a big city, we get some, actually stickers for signage being recognized kinda like bird city was tree city has been Basically the benefits would be that recognition and that networking with other, other cities and access to some of those resources – Do you know that if if we pay the 500 do we would we meet the requirements of being labeled bad or what’s the effort to be labeled with the city? – Right, so the city would, would have to have something in place as far as, like an ordinance relating to pollinators, which we already do Promoting and creating sustainable like sustaining pollinator habitat That is something that we have to do as a city – Anything else? That’s kind of the major stuff to do? – Yeah, having something in an ordinance and having actual habitat created and maintained – So is this something maybe better after we reach our 2020 goal of having the pollinator corridor established or map? Does it make sense to wait for a certain point, or to go hand in hand or same time? development? – Yeah, I don’t see a problem with doing it now Because we wouldn’t apply until that $500 has been raised Anyway And there is work that’s already been done by the city that would qualify us and then continued work being done this year and that could be the report out would be, we spent 2020 mapping and looking for new sites Jason grant muscle – Statements in here under the back contemplation So, just looking at the last bullet here it says esteemed sustainability committee committed to promoting positive awareness best management practices creating and sustaining monitoring evidence. Okay, supporting the recommendations for, for better quality of the working group as a result replacement pieces will say what we disagree on. I’ll explain creating, maintaining enhancing pollinator habitat on public and private lands so we as a sustainability committee are your, this statement is committing us to doing, – So what was originally written was the city of Green Bay convinced to and that is difficult for the city to commit to those actions – Not sure it’s not difficult – I would agree that it would be difficult for the sustainability commission to, – I should say committee sorry, – Commission period – To commit to all those as well. So, who does what, and what power do they have that is those last four bullet points? I changed it because I didn’t want to commit the city Because what is this? I always ask that question What’s the city who’s the city? Which part of the city so – Right – And I think, this is obviously up for change and your edits as a commission And, especially creating maintaining enhancing pollinator habitat on public and private lands city couldn’t do that anyway, – Right – Private land, couldn’t do that. So and b are BCD artwork on city signs

– I’m not sure about that either (Murmur) – We can use take action today – I mean, we do have to take action, but it could be to send it back to the working group – Is that (Murmur) – Right? So – Is this application? – No, this is not an application I mean, this isn’t the application The application is online This is just some general information – Do you think it’s gonna be helpful like for acquiring grant funding and things like that if, if you’re trying to create the pollinator corridor and it shows where obesity I would think that it would be helpful, to acquire funds – To show a level of commitment. So, (Murmur) – Right – See that, – like saying, Okay, this is, so the sustainability commission is supportive of this And so then perhaps the DNR, whoever has funding could be supportive of a project that enhances, but I guess I bet to me would be the biggest benefit, I think of becoming a VC – You can leverage it for some, – Yeah – Funding project – Yes – Unless there’s like, I don’t know because I unless there’s like, specific grants that really valued the city, like does it have some pool otherwise, pollinators are pretty I mean, just that word alone is good, pretty good in a lot of grants, and that this sustainability see For me, the sustainability commission commit to wanting more power through our work plan We’re committing already So we could already say that – Yeah, – We are committed to this corridor I mean, in the end, we could just be like we’re dedicated to developing this corridor or something – Right – And I don’t know if I think be said I’m not convinced yet VCs like, (Mumbles) yeah (Laughing) – Exactly, (Laughing) – Down there, – Campus that we need this to do, what we’re doing and then do what we’re doing already, – Right – Like it’s out what is the added value early to having this and paying $500 a year for it? – And what are we thinking? – I mean, you could take 500 bucks and go bill, how many gardens with that? – One really good, – Really nice one, when there’s probably a bigger impact than wouldn’t be sitting – On here for work through? – I think because people are I think grants, the ones I know are more looking at like habitat and stuff and I don’t know, but having a designation would be we, if this is civic, the sustainability commission through this and it’s actually work actively working and it’s incorporated in plans of the city I think that’s probably more valuable in a grant application then – It might buy a one time media, Africa in basically like a news story, like Green Bay to the city Here’s what that means It would be a way for us to market some of our goals for what we do, – But it would be better if it was time with something like if you want people to put to do them in their yards and then put it in an inventory Like we have an online system where they can enter their own garden, like could be packaged like that. We’re obesity Be a part of the city and help us blah, blah, blah So I think bigger than just like that, too, like how can we use it to leverage getting the public engaged in, – An even bigger way? – Maybe we don’t have that infrastructure yet – Were you thinking the 500 would come from? – They wanted to start asking for donations on with some of their colleagues and people on campus and, – Just fundraising – And all that they know, just to start asking for donations basically, on a very grassroots level – I think so my understanding is the city of Appleton with their proposal for no mo May was kind of sparked by the fact that they’re obesity and they’re trying to, meet both efforts, I guess, by doing that So I guess I could perhaps see that tying into if we did want to promote

nomo may type of thing – What we should do that anyway – The normal – Yeah, you can do it without being a bit silly but it was kind of from the way their resolution was written it says therapy study and so it’s just kind of more ammunition for the reason why you want to do what you want to do – One time it was such a bigger I think you could do a lot now that you say that that you’d be like we are now we’re obesity This is you could have like, timed at the certain time of the year and promoting me to bind me to plan some planning out a garden and workshop maybe about how to plan go about planning and converting – So I think, – It’d be a big deal and then have, – It might take a while to raise that 500 So why, like, if we’re going to do it, I think we should start allowing them to raise that money because especially because like kind of college people (Murmur) With a busy campus, you know why am saying that? – No (Murmur) – Yeah (Laughing) – I don’t know, (Murmur) – Have been asked that one, backup plan for the korone, – I mean, – Actually, (Murmur) according to but – I think Fred’s idea, and I know it kind of takes away sustainability and pollinator corridor and all that stuff. The kids could really get on board I could see little kids getting really excited about where obesity, and having teachers be able to adjust their curriculum to bees and pollination and just creating a whole bunch of awareness on how important our food is – I can be like, this is one thing, though, that you could build, like, it’s like, What do you want? And then we can build all this stuff around it And then it’s part of marketing like that day we are right now it doesn’t need to be city This is, come join us and – I don’t dispute the potential value does have value but I want to time it with something we’ll do is that the unveiling of the pollinator map, I want to have something that people can go and actually look at, something tangible, I think it’s great, but let’s have something there for them Other than, hey, we’re now in the city – Okay, – well, then maybe to the fundraiser, man, they got the funds – We say, before we do this, we want to coordinate – First, we want the funds, – Right? – Then we can coordinate and then go forward – So we should send Back to the working group with interest and that down the road, they can start, – To take more than that to fundraise – I mean, do we have to make a great commitment? I mean, do they really want to raise funds if we’re just saying we’re interested? – Is there a BA? – We’re thinking about doing it during growing season with want to get it done by me here Right? Basically, you can do a fall planting for natives too, but – Or you could take a year and raise the funds planted out like something that’s big That’s starting up next year, like integrated into things like the schools or like, how many schools can you get to adopt a plant a garden? birthday? – Yeah – Yeah, – Here. There’s some when you have enthusiasts from a volunteer to take a year – To do what just becoming obesity – And committed to doing some fundraising for it (Mumbles) – I guess it’s not doing anything Right, because it’s them – Right? – You’re asking this permission for support for the application, not necessarily myths, when it comes down to it, it’s gonna go forward with or without our support – there, oh, no, – No this, the city would still have to sign off on it So it wouldn’t go forward without our support – Visits have to go to council? – Well, I mean, everything we do goes to Council, – Right – But they would have to sign off on being, – They would have to agree that Yeah, we’re gonna use some city signage, to advertise that we’re be sitting, that would kind of be the big (Mumbles) – Well, I think what’s also important is the application So the application, no one is looking at it So as there’s I don’t know if you’re going to refer to the next meeting, but perhaps I’m sending me the application so that I can forward it to someone to look at might be helpful

and answers the question – Okay, so are you asking me to hold this for a month? And then look at the application? Maybe in between now and then, – I don’t know what everybody else I’m just saying that maybe an application would I mean? – Yeah, – I just – think I am clear what we’re being asked for action on – The action would be to allow, like the people from the pollinator quarter working group to apply on behalf of the City, – I to meet with the city – Now know that, – The organization Okay, sorry, yeah. Okay Go a head – But the but, what what stuck with me was that this, this last part will because you’re saying that safe, sustainable, efficient commits to doing these things So we’re committed by agreeing with at least this information that’s here We’re committing ourselves to doing something that’s laid out here And I guess that kind of circles back Round to knowing more about what the outcomes of these processes are, there are other pieces around excuse me advance, – But they just become (Murmur) – Am not, – So I’m sorry So the action is that we are deciding on is whether to allow them to, – Fundraise and apply But if we’re thinking, Hey, we want to all look at the application before we allow people to apply for something, then they just have to wait for a month – Are they going to apply for us? Or just there was direct – I mean, it would be us but the working group – So the city is the applicant, some subset of the city is the applicant for the city, which would make sense and doesn’t need a resolution from counsel – No – I would imagine it probably would We are committing city signage, nothing else submitting that And like you said, and like you said, creating maintain enhancing habitat on public and private land What does that private land thing all about? That’s kind of curious. So I wouldn’t be opposed to holding this for a month – But yeah, could we see what the applicant is? If they’re going to do the application can come back to us with that filled out application? And then we can say whether – Right, is that? – Right, because – We would be approving the application to make to councils – Sounds so I think that makes sense – Oh, no, we can’t do it (Laughs) – I think maybe the motion would be to refer this to the prior quarter working group to fill out an application for our review Before sending it on there, – So moved. Motion by Randy. Second By the (Murmur) – way, I beat the motion, – Randy came up with it on his own – We’re very proud of and we got a second – Sorry. Okie clicky – Okay – And maybe we could In the meantime, ask apple and it doesn’t have to be part of the motion but ask Appleton How does that look as far as creativity? I have it privately, like, really? No problem – Alright, so all those in favor of the motion say aye? – [Group] Aye – All those opposed? (Clapping) Cool – Thank you (Murmur) – All right, we’ll move on to item four, – Of course – PARCC survey – Okay. So, right – Unfortunately, when I actually I don’t know if it looks funny on here, as printed out, but it looked kind of funny when I, when I looked at it as a PDF (Murmur) – Is it okay? – Okay, All right (Mumbles) – Man, it’s been a long time, – But I have three – And I’m gonna try and try and summarize stuff for you guys. So the parks department we’re working on updating our park recreation and open space plan

– Which is, – Is something that we update every five years The document is really just to help us guide like the development that’s happening in the parks So we can kind of prioritize projects, things like that, as well as we look at the recreation end of things And then really, the document is a great resource for when we do go for grant funding from the DNR And so I believe if you don’t have a plan like this, you can’t even apply for certain grants So it’s critical that we have it The last one was from 2014 to 2019 So it’s outdated. We’re hoping to have kind of close to a final draft done by April 1 for the plan So that’s coming up soon And so we did a survey to put a survey out to the public just to try and get gather information to see how they can how we can Hands her hand and kind of meet the needs of what people are looking for. And so the survey, we had 687 respondents, which we thought was great, they were mainly it was located on our website, we put it on our Facebook page, stuff like that reached out to some of the user groups and associations, things like that, to let them know that it was out there So it closed Sometime between the last time we met today, I forget exactly the day But it was great that we get so much feedback And so I guess kind of getting back to the plan Really, overall, what’s inside of the plan is the purpose for the plan We incorporate other plans into here that kind of complement our plan and what we’re working towards So for instance, the comprehensive plan, the Brown County bicycle and pedestrian plan, update, things like that So we tried typos And I’m thinking perhaps initiatives that the sustainability commission would bring forward, kind of being included in here as well So something to think about We have our current mission statement, which is, we endeavor to enrich the quality of life of all people by creatively providing and enhancing leisure opportunities in green space We have some goals and objectives to that then we go into you look at kind of a city demographics, that type of stuff, inventory of what we have in the parks as far as what amenities we have in each Parker Greenway We look at kind of a nice assessment, and that’s based on what’s a National Recreation and Park Association recommends as far as so however many people you have, should have X amount of ball fields and kind of that type of information and so we’ve been Take that and see kind of where we are currently and look at an action plan We kind of have that broken out into categories So for instance, we sort of have a paragraph about like, our voting facilities, community gardens, and difficult things like that So we kind of generally talk about those things And then we go into action by Park So each park or Greenway has a recommendation in here for what we would like to see as far as development and things like that And we do touch on maintenance just a little bit, but I kind of would like to see that expand as we’re updating the plan And then we talk a little bit about funding to and which mainly comes from grants and funding, some fundraising, things like that So I guess kind of keeping in mind what’s in the plan and then taking a look at the survey results So Try to summarize this so that we don’t have to go through all that And there’s a couple extra things here, – That you weren’t able to – Master, – That I didn’t share because it was real quick (Laughing) Does anybody have questions so far before we get into the survey and working? Okay – So the use of the funding was mostly by grants. Sorry, no, – I’m sorry. The majority of the funding is probably from fun – Random that grants is a safe portion of it is finding Yes, that’s probably the second source of funding, – Comprehensive outdoor recreation You’re not eligible for DNR funding – Yes, – I’ve written a bunch of these things – Okay (Laughs) – You tied into what’s called statewide conference about a recreation plan to the score – Yes, – Every 10 years or so

– Yes, exactly Yeah So it’s an important document for us, not only for the getting the grants, but again, just to kind of help guide where we want to go over the next five years. And that in turn kind of helps us with figuring out our five year capital improvement plan and that type of thing. So as far as the survey results we had over half the people said that they didn’t Park facility frequently, which I thought was wonderful 36% said that they visited once in a while, which is still good, I think And then the remainders were basically not at all or hardly ever. So It seems like that’s 89% of responding to frequent our facilities or go there’s, throughout the year, which is great 66% of those people feel that it’s extremely important to preserve natural areas and parks, which I think is This wonderful (Laughs) 31% think it’s very important and that’s 97% of people who think that for serving natural areas is important. So and I guess just to throw this out there, just so you’re aware, as far as our current staffing and resources right now, we have very little of both of those going towards that area, the majority of our staffing and funding and things like that right now It’s going towards like cutting turf grass and things like that, and not necessarily in basically Google and that type of thing So I just wanted to make you aware that people mostly find out information about us through social media, so through Facebook page, Park websites, stuff like that So there are some who like to use the brochures and things like that, but 70% of people said that they would utilize a community center and its programming. So we do work with the school district quite a bit to kind of use some of their resources as tires, gym time, stuff like that But we found the community thinks, be a great resource And so we’re kind of starting to talk about it It hasn’t really been mentioned in the plan much and maybe kind of expanding upon that and exploring that more 99% of people thought trees were an asset to the community So that was great (Laughing) (Mumbles) It’s probably the one person who don’t like to rake their leaves – We’re over here – Parks baby to amusement park obviously everybody needs some park rides and just being along the bay that is I’m sure a big part of what people like out there Um, the next favorite Park was Bear Creek Greenway The Wildlife Sanctuary McCullough canoes roll next time Listen, in my mind Those are really surrounded by kind of natural areas and things like that So it’s kind of neat to see that people are really attracted to those places – And Aster, – Yeah, Aster was a very close hands during cold burning Astro very close as well, – I think Smith, or phenomenon actually need to read Smith – Could be, – Somebody typed in Smith – It could be, – Well that one’s cool – And I think next time we do this, we’re going to do a little more facts checking just to keep things a little more consistent and easier to analyze. And, – Interesting Packer stadium is considered Part One – People typed it in right? – Right. Yeah – Yeah, – Yeah – Yeah, I can see what yeah, that’s probably (Mumbles) the baby – I – So Johannesburg, probably (Murmur) – It could have been, – Joannie join knows right, – You know (Mumbles) – So those are kind of you know the big butt activities but people like to do At the top of the list was kind of a combination I put them all together walking walking dogs and taking all of those together 354 people so that that was their favorite activity and we had them ranked in an order of like one to five like one being attacked paper but this is just kind of a compiled version of Kali girls – Pokemon Go – Okay, – It is really – Three

– Yeah, – Pokemon Go (Mumbles) – If you would ask that, like two years ago (Laughing) to see down there I hadn’t even thought about that – But it was interesting to see, – My five year old ask for parking over here – Awesome, – Yeah (Mumbles)( Laughing) – Unfortunately, it hasn’t been – Well, we’re (Mumbles) – Both really excited, like, people are doing so much damage Yeah (Mumbles) – Going into the, (Mumbles) – Lake Park and they were just their trails are getting so much, – That’s great – People will know the people are dependent on – The pokeyman – So again, favorite activities biking, mountain biking, we’re second after the walking hiking using playgrounds was next I think obviously folks with younger kids typically our playgrounds are cater to ages two to 12 So that’s the target we’re heading there at nine after that was swimming 131 people pick next What’s next? Cooking and grilling out was in there as well. And then at nine people said, animal or nature viewing bird watching going to the zoo Wildlife Sanctuary being rolled back to the thing was one of their favorite activities I thought was great Um, favorite winter activities flooding was at the top of the list Unfortunately, triangle ski homes only open a handful of days This year just due to weather That’s unfortunate There’s scheming was next on the list snow show Walking and hiking again, fat Tiger biking is really kind of getting big in the area and escaping. What’s next? And then the question about how many trails were used within the last year was the fox River Trail was at the top of the list the Bear Creek trails for a second and then the eastern River Trail was the third So sorry, you didn’t have all of this information prior to because they’re just compiled some of it today So yeah, I guess So all that being said, what I’m really looking for from the condition is kind of knowing what you know about the survey and knowing a little bit bit about the plan and that type of thing Is there any recommendations or suggestions you have for us as we’re updating the plan? – Sure, replace turf grass with native vegetation, – Where we can – And land native landscaping – It’s like Meaning that you have to, – I don’t know, I think if we look at where the foot traffic happens, then we’ll know where not to do it Right. Like, we know our kids are playing on fields Now what we want to eliminate, we want to keep those fields, – Right. This could be, – Underutilized turf area – Yeah, for sure – Definitely. Because I mean, it’s less maintenance So then you’re talking about most of your money going towards me and some turf grass, too So that could help reduce costs – We didn’t try to – love to see some kind of when I don’t know if we have not, we don’t have no that’s probably, but on the spraying at parks, internal decisions made that we’re not going to cosmetically spray on our parks – And we don’t spray our turf For instance, I know like unless it’s an athletic field for dandelions, which we used to do We do use herbicide to like kill the grass under the fence line To reduce mowing and things like that But Sorry, what was there? – The idea, – Was, (Murmur) – The idea would be anywhere that a child goes to play You shouldn’t be spraying harmful chemicals, – Even more adult or an adult or an immunocompromised person. Anyone like city parks are gonna have dandelions and that’s cool, like kids – Right? I mean, – Yeah. So is it I guess, herbicide in general that you’re targeting? Or, like, we fertilize our athletic fields And so is there a concern that kids are playing on athletic fields that are fertilized now or, – Just have to maintain it as you do? – I mean, (Murmur) – Right – Great. I think we should look at the type of use and the type of

chemicals that we’re putting – Yeah – And is there an organic alternative? Is there a safer alternative? If we are, managing it for specific use, and we need to do whatever – From like the public safe health perspective kind of looking at – And then, we have parks that people really don’t like the corner of bear to Mason, you’ve allowed us to put in insulation for native plants, like, who we expand some of that, right And I think that that’s what’s really missing – And I agree with you 100%. I just know that right now, with the resources we have, I’m being told that we don’t have the staff who can manage those areas So like often, I mean, I think you were involved with planting the garden or and like go back to maintain it now And we kind of have the same issues with our Even just the community gardens where you get people who are on board with the projects and they get implemented, but then those people move away or things like that. And then, the parks department is stuck with that responsibility, but with our other current responsibilities, it’s difficult for us to do that And I think that’s really the biggest pushback or I’ve been getting as far as wanting to create these native plantings is the maintenance of it because it’s in the staff who’s knowledgeable enough to do it It’s the horticulture industry in general is looks like nobody’s wanting to be a part of it for some reason. And so it’s having trained staff or being able to train staff Yes, we could probably do that but it’s just it’s very easy to train somebody in the morning to go out and mow the grass and now you don’t worry about it extend till next week, you have to meet again – If we can get the boat tactical gardening guy involved and get people to like and adopt differently – Yeah Do you have friends friends? – We put two friends groups we have one for the wildlife sanctuary and then one for Bay Beach amusement parks and there’s exclusive to those two separate and – That’s it. That’s just one – Come up with a friends for, – Well, yeah, I know I mean I don’t want to, like say my Michael to Milwaukee in theirs Every Park has friends with documented it’s working towards making some of those – Neighborhood associations (Murmur) – Some a rain Neighborhood Association and – They have a mastery server maintains some of the garden stuff and Astor Park – But again, sometimes everyone’s going through – Right, right, right. I mean, – There’s that’s a lot that’s a lot of work to to try to get people to do those things (Crowd chattering) – Like what are the barriers for your staff? You know what, and then how could we address that? – I feel like you might like, thinking about the OEM part like Do we know exactly what it was? What is Basque actually, like, it’s easy to say, we’re all doing this right now So there’s no room. But what is Basque? If we were going to, to do it, like how much would it cost? How much would it save by doing like this amount of grass? – Yeah. And I think if we can, if I can find resources and information that show so the benefits of converting, like money wise and – Yeah, – And put together something that’s like, this is the trade off like here like that’s something that Yeah, without the numbers it doesn’t it’s hard to somebody don’t imagine how you might shift resources – Right – So yes, they might go to actions under the ecological one is doing like a an om and cost analysis – For Yeah, be great – It’s gonna be hard to get people from doing things the way they’ve always done them because they’re working now – Right, right – Yeah – Yeah, – Yeah. And you have the equipment and it’s In the budget, so – That’s why there was like, the Botanical Gardens, maybe you could get a group like that, to agree to manage that Not that they would actually, but they’d organize and they get people to – Take care of the neighborhood neighbor associations and the community – Just kind of talking about though, is green. This is a form of green infrastructure to some extent, and like, the question is in every city, and I might be, it’s not your staff at some point It’s hired out staff who or whoever, wherever it depends, what I mean, there are different ways but this is like a huge issue for every community trying to do these things is the O and M piece So we could, like, do some research and figure out that’s, just come up with like, what does it look like, change this, so, how much does it cost to change it over? Right? (Laughs) And then like, what is it going to take to maintain it? – Yes. Because and then Oneida has They are doing this on one

They’re as like a pilot on one of their properties And they’re one of the reasons they are doing it is because it is supposed to be a lot less maintenance (Mumbles) Yeah, you don’t have to mow it right away and you don’t you know, so And there’s that doesn’t mean there’s no maintenance waste, but maybe we could build it – Should it be motor burn at some point, just as a as you get trees otherwise or whatever, you got to manage it somehow So, let’s look at what that would look like You know, not just gonna be volunteers coming in every year to pull stuff. That’s gonna be it This is how our city managers and, – Firefighters maybe because practice do they do that to their native? – No, no – No (Mumbles) – I’m not sure if they’ve done it They’ve done that but I don’t have the tenant in the city – We have done, – If they’ve done it kinda like oh, By can use up that way. And so – Oh yeah, they did efforts in March – And in March Yeah, yeah But I don’t think that anything is safe I mean it’d be something look at – We’ve done it and the city has done it around there stormwater management, or stormwater piles – No, – I know like McKenzie lane for instance I believe it was last spring accidentally Technical College does do it as part of their learning he knows some because they are training students to do it So I know that’s available locally I don’t know how many they can burn in the air but – Are you going to have to burn? – About any theoretically if the city had enough areas that needed burning? You could hire somebody to do that? Specializes in matter (Silence) – Okay, the only other The only other one I drive by the wildlife sanctuary and the grass between the beach and the Call them – Yeah – Like there’s like prime reservoir wetland habitat restoration opportunity right there – We agree – Okay Like it awesome board what not awesome board walk over to the wildlife sanctuary connecting the two said baby Yeah – Is that is that in your plans? – We yes (Laughs) term plans – Okay So you do it yeah Okay – So I thought you were assessing that like that areas as wetland restoration already – So I’m sorry, amusement park side or the – [Debora Hutchison] It’s between – [Kaurie Mihm] The sanctuary side – [Debora Hutchison] The amusement park side – [Kaurie] Okay – [Deborah] It’s trees and then – [Seth] There’s that open there’s – [ Debora] A lot of geese – [Julia] Yes (Laughing) – [Debora] Wetland delineation, dilute delineation done there this past year and that area is designated wetland And we do have plans at some point to – [John Arendt] Improve them – [Debora Hoffmeister] Yeah to serve a function better and civically I think it would be a nice time with what is happening across the street So yes, we don’t have any we’re planning to do it We don’t have anything set in stone yet ready to go shovel ready, although I may have – [Kaurie Mihm] One more thing on a different angle A little bit is when parks create more interest, like with educational signs, people can feel more pride, maybe more likely to take care of their own community, but more educational signs that – [Julia Noordyk] Hey – [Debora Hutchison] History, Green Bay, things that provide ground and depth I don’t know hardship, history that you know, beauty and unusual Species things like that I know it’s expensive – [Kaurie Mihm] But yes And I think the main concern with that too is the replacement of it’s [Debora Hutchison] From us Thai – [Julia Noordyk] Yeah – [Debora Hutchison] Yeah. So – [Julie Noordyk] So we to shy away from signage for that reason just because of maintenance of it But I do think, especially if we are putting in like permeable pavers in our parking lot, and you know, things like that And in high visibility areas where we get a lot of folks who will see those types of things it definitely makes sense – [Kaurie Mihm] Okay I’m not sure what emotion we need to make or (Laughs) how we use this information now To record but – [Mark Waiter] Receive a place on file or refer to staff Oh, yeah, I guess we do make recommendations

– [Julia Noordyk] Yeah – [Mark Waiter] So for our recommendation system – [John Arendt] Sure Second, (Laughing) – [Mark Walter] Motion by Ned seconded by Randy referred to staff All those in favor say aye – [Crowd] Aye – [Mark Walter] All those opposed? All right, referred on to the last item Agenda So this is the letter – [Kaurie Mihm] Murmur – [John Arendt] One more hour – Okay – So this is the letter This is basically just all the edits that we discussed last time And this is the final version – Yeah, – So it should be pretty much good to go folks just want to take a look And see if anything stands out and it’s not approved – Approve is presented folks monitoring through a comma after three years, – There’s that Yeah, – There’s a little I would say get rid of the comma after greetings and then the dash between pain and energy – Hold on, – At this point, I might, (Laughing) add another, – Appreciating exclamation point after greetings – My name is – think – I think James should have a date – Go get it – Oh no, wait, (Murmur) Oh, yes – Okay. What else? Come after greetings – Time after readings and on the dashboard Between. Clean Energy, – Clean energy That was modifying infrastructure (Murmur) – So that’s why I put a hyphen in there – So it’s clean energy, infrastructure and solutions Those are three separate things – No, – No, – No just, just clean energy It doesn’t need to be hyphenated – I understand but if it’s I thought it was modifying infrastructure associated – With it is clean energy infrastructure – And then she’s right – Yes – Really smart – Wow. That is a really deep dive – So it does modify infrastructure But so what should – I don’t care? – Clean energy infrastructure is what you want? Yes – Oh, – Can we put an Oxford comma after businesses, please, – That above those bulleted lists? – I have a big fan of the accurate – Yes, we can flex poetic about that But let’s see where – We work with right above the bullets – Are we work with the residents? – Oh, sure – This town marine city departments here, – We just put a comment – Yes – Suggest that we, – Say preserve and enhance biodiversity because I think we want to expand on that – Okay. Sure – Okay – Which changes or should we approve as amended? – Anything else? – You can do better prepare the community for severe storms and flooding rather than two separate bullets – Okay, sure – Nice. There we go, Gary – Save money – Okay – Shall we right please wait cycle (Mumbles) – I think we should please resize your refrigerator – Give it a little levity – Wait, what do you want me Okay – What am I kidding? – I said please recycle this document then actually you could have a nice quote by Aldo Leopold – Do you have it with you? (Laughing) code on it? (Laughing) – Oh, my god, (Mumbles) – Sorry, I was wondering that email – There you go – And you’re just gonna come up with it – It, nothing, – Wasn’t out (Crowd chattering) – My hairy wire. RM six – Oh yeah. That’s my I have – Do that stamp for Rome, Rome (Laughing)

– This is it Yeah, it says I think is right when it tends to preserve the integrity, stability and beauty of the biotic community it is wrong when it tends otherwise, – So you’re reading that? (Murmur) – Is that um, the light, please? – Yeah – He’s taking hold in quotes – That’s all just the quarter (Murmur) – [Debora Hutchison] Although it’s disgusting Oh, it goes in the neighbor Association newsletter Hopefully they recycle the whole thing Yeah, that’s the thing So they should actually have a second one A grouping – Yeah – This (Murmur) – Yeah, (Laughing) – Was really getting punchy – [Crowd] Yes, we are – All right. Cool (Crowd chattering) – Motion to adopt as amended – Yes To buy RAM and – [Kaurie Mihm] Did you make the motion and second? – [Group] No – [Mark Walter] I can’t do both – [Kaurie Mihm] Okay – [Mark Walter] All those in favor? – [Group] Aye – [Mark Walter] All those opposed? – [Ned Dorff] Motion to adjourn? – [Mark Walter] Motion to adjourn – [Julia Noordyk] Wait – [Debora Hutchison] Well, we got the letter – [Julia Noordyk] Wait, hold on folks have to wait (Laughing] – [Julia Noordyk] Okay Now – [Ned Dorff] Motion to adjourn – [Julia Noordyk] He may – [Ned Dorff] Did you want to add something? – [Kaurie Mihm] We have the letter I don’t know if it’s to the last motion But now the letter has to go out neighborhoods – [Julia Noordyk] Yes – [Debora Hutchison] That’s already – We’re waiting for (Group Mumbling] – [Julia Noordyk] Oh, I didn’t know putting their information on it – [Kaurie Mihm] Oh, my God – [Julia Noordyk] Did I just put my own email in there because I figured let’s – [Kaurie Mihm] Get it out the door Okay The last time we did last week talked about waiting for the coordinator and having their cut – [Debora Hutchison] I think so it’s up to you know – [Julia Noordyk] If it’s me and I can just – [Kaurie Mihm] Yeah – I don’t wanna – [Julia Noordyk] I just wanna so – [Kaurie Mihm] People will be at home for a while (Laughs) – [Julia Noordyk] So if they’re male (Laughs) – [Kaurie Mihm] So yeah, sorry, you’re saying we should get out? – [Mark Walter] Yes (Mumbles) – [Julia Noordyk] Okay Okay, who is the journey? – [Ned Dorff] Wait, wait, wait, wait – [Kaurie Mihm] Can I ask for an update on the resilience coordinator position? – [Julia Noordyk] I didn’t put on the agenda – [Kaurie Mihm] Okay – [Randy Scannell] After – [Julia Noordyk] I can talk to you – [Kaurie Mihm] after super – [Ned Dorff] All right Is there a motion to address – [Julia Noordyk] And then I will excuse me I’ll put that on the next agenda – [Ned Dorff] Okay – [Mark Walter] Second – [Kaurie Mihm] So mad to sit – [Ned Dorff] In turn – [Julia Noordyk] Who seconded? – [Ned Dorff] Nobody, nobody Nobody ever did – [Julia Noordy] No. Deborah, – [Ned Dorff] Did I make that motion guys? – [Julia Noordyk] Okay – [Randy Scannel] All those in favor say aye – [Group] Aye – [Randy Scannell] All those opposed? – [Ned Dorff] Salary guide to 24 – [Julia Noordyk] Okay (Laughing) (Group mumbling) – [Kaurie Mihm] So, okay